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First Place
\"Don't mind me guys, keep going\"
posted by George2110 on /memes
Click here to view the post. ● 133,800 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 14:20:08 UTC
Second Place
At night you can see the moon, during the day you get to see moon moon.
posted by Fresh_Front on /aww
Click here to view the post. ● 122,162 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 13:07:14 UTC
Third Place
Kansas City Beatdown
posted by Germanic_Youth on /PublicFreakout
Click here to view the post. ● 107,256 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 00:39:49 UTC
Fourth Place
What 90's gaming actually looked like
posted by seenthezoo on /gaming
Click here to view the post. ● 104,607 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 02:54:48 UTC
Fifth Place
Beautiful grey wolf becomes a good boy when visited by woman who helped raise his pack
posted by asdfpartyy on /aww
Click here to view the post. ● 104,159 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 09:47:01 UTC

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First Place
Love the tap on the shoulder before the blow to face.
posted by Turd-Stink on /PublicFreakout
Click here to view the post. ● 12,978 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 01:20:16 UTC
Second Place
Dude was recognized from the past, my boss says he got caught trying to boost stuff in the past. My boss was bird-dogging him and noticed some stuff he was carrying he was suddenly not carrying. We ask him where he put it and he tells us he left it in another part of the store. Boss says alright get out of here I remember you, dude freaks out saying fuck us. Then he pulls out a box cutter knife and starts waving it around so our clerk called the law. Dude storms out, walks back in and says I didn't steal shit and pulls his pants down and shows us his wiener and balloon knot. A guy outside said he noticed the guy flash everyone and saw the knife so he laid him out. Hit him one time and the dude took off. Police got moderately involved but I hope that guy learns from this and doesn't pull his pants down in front of a bunch of people again.
posted by Germanic_Youth on /PublicFreakout
Click here to view the post. ● 12,092 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 01:02:01 UTC
Third Place
I love how he turns over and lets her run his belly like a puppy dog. That wolf must have mad respect for this woman. I'd love to know the story of how she helped raise his pack..
posted by thefaith1029 on /aww
Click here to view the post. ● 9,446 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 10:35:47 UTC
Fourth Place
\"Moon Moon, where are you?\" ` \"Roof!\"`
posted by TooShiftyForYou on /aww
Click here to view the post. ● 8,644 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 14:31:40 UTC
Fifth Place
Reminds me of this other video of the dude coming home from work and freaking out cause he saw his husky chilling on the roof
posted by temporarycows on /aww
Click here to view the post. ● 6,368 Upvotes ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 14:21:43 UTC

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It’s the little things
posted by bella3774 on /MadeMeSmile
Click here to view the post. ● 129,481 Upvotes ● 3 reward(s). ● 1 silver reward(s), 1 gold reward(s) and 1 platinum reward(s) ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 15:06:34 UTC
Second Place
Karen calls police on man sitting in his car outside his own house
posted by tefunka on /PublicFreakout
Click here to view the post. ● 66,508 Upvotes ● 3 reward(s). ● 1 silver reward(s), 1 gold reward(s) and 1 platinum reward(s) ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 13:19:10 UTC
Third Place
🐱 kittens!
posted by Fishbowl007 on /AnimalsOnReddit
Click here to view the post. ● 1,261 Upvotes ● 3 reward(s). ● 1 silver reward(s), 1 gold reward(s) and 1 platinum reward(s) ● Posted: 09/07/2020 at 21:43:40 UTC
Fourth Place
We don't need Harvest going core, we need improvements and consolidation of existing crafting options.
posted by Enartloc on /pathofexile
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5 day old foster kittens!
posted by sazzajelly on /AnimalsOnReddit
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During this lockdown I have been tasked with raising my nephews in the absence of my bil and sister as they are both doctors and we are following strict guidelines to remain separate. `My eldest nephew had been bullying his younger brother and some kids over the internet. He was generally being a dick. I immediately realised that he was a bully but also hurting but I didn’t give him any excuses for his bad behaviour. I made sure to be vocal and reprimand him every time he was crossing the line or being even vaguely inappropriate towards his brother. We started to have regular conversations on where his sour attitude was coming from and at first it just seemed like he was born to be an asshole but I persisted. ` After awhile he opened up to me and he started to feel like he was being heard and was then able to explain to me that he felt like he was a disappointment to our family as we are all fairly academic and successful in our professional lives and he was worried since he isn’t so academically inclined. He was also insecure about his sexuality (because his voice was still child like and not like his friends/little brother, so he thought that made him gay) and was therefore being overly aggressive and macho. He felt like he was the ugly, dumb older brother who could never do right compared to his younger brother, he also felt insecure about his lack of hair growth both facially and down below. I can honestly say that in the past few months he has been with me he has drastically changed because I took the time to listen and give him all the love I had for him. I apologised for not making him feel more loved/not showing him how much I loved him and how important he was to me and his parents. `We had a family zoom chat with his parents and discussed all his frustrations and upsets with his parents,siblings and even me. We all agreed to praise him more and to view his achievements with enthusiasm and pride it deserved. We assured him that he will never ever be compared to anyone else again. ` Honestly in a few months he went from being this annoying always bad ass kid to the kid I always knew he was deep down. He now is helpful, kind and very fun to be around. He has stopped bullying his brother, they not only get along but have started to be like friends and we issued letters of apologies to the kids he was bullying(initially he wanted to text them but I persuaded him to reconsider),all the kids were gracious enough to accept his apologies. ` Sometimes kids need to be reminded loudly and often how loved and wanted they are.`
posted by dat_woman_over_there on /AskReddit
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Second Place
Did she ever ask you while you were doing it: ` Remember when I could fit all of you inside me?`
posted by CraptainAmerica on /IAmA
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Trump was over a billion in debt and the Russians [bailed him out.](https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/) `► Trump was first compromised by the Russians in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use[ Trump real estate to launder money.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/is-there-a-case-for-trump-putin-collaboration-years-before-the-campaign/2018/08/16/00578f1e-9440-11e8-80e1-00e80e1fdf43_story.html) In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate, but evolved into something far bigger.` ► In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. ([NY Times](https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/30/nyregion/entrepreneur-who-left-us-is-back-awaiting-sentence.html), Apr 30, 1992) `► Felix Sater is a Russian-born former mobster, and former managing director of NY real estate conglomerate Bayrock Group LLC located on the 24th floor of Trump Tower. He is a convict who became a govt cooperator for the FBI and other agencies. He grew up with Michael Cohen--Trump's former \"fixer\" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.` ► Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management. `► In July 2008, the height of the housing bust, Trump sold a mansion in Palm Beach for $95 million to Dmitry Rybolovlev, a Russian oligarch. Trump had purchased it four years earlier for $41.35 million. The sale price was nearly $54 million more than Trump had paid for the property. Again, this was the height of the recession when all other property had plummeted in value.` ► Semion Mogilevich was the brains behind the Russian Mafia. Mogilevich operatives have been using Trump real estate for decades to launder money. That means Russian Mafia operatives have been part of his fortune for years. Many of them owned condos in Trump Towers and other properties. They were running operations out of Trump's crown jewel. `► From Craig Unger's AMA: \"Early on, a source told me that all this was tied to Semion Mogilevich, the powerful Russian mobster. I had never even heard of him, but I immediately went to a database that listed the owners of all properties in NY state and looked up all the Trump properties. Every time I found a Russian sounding name, I would Google, and add Mogilevich. When you do investigative reporting, you anticipate drilling a number of dry holes, but almost everyone I googled turned out to be a Russian mobster. Again and again. If you know New York you don't expect Trump Tower to be a high crime neighborhood, but there were far too many Russian mobsters in Trump properties for it to be a coincidence.\"` ► So many Russians bought Trump apartments at his developments in Florida that the area became known as Little Moscow. The developers of two of his hotels were Russians with significant links to the Russian mob. The late leader of that mob in the United States, Vyacheslav Kirillovich Ivankov, was [living at Trump Tower](https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate) `► According to a Bloomberg investigation (3/16/2017) into Trump World Tower, “a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states.”` ► In 2013, Federal agents busted an “ultraexclusive, high-stakes, illegal poker ring” run by Russian gangsters out of Trump Tower. They operated card games, illegal gambling websites, and a global sports book and laundered more than $100 million. A condo directly below one owned by Trump reportedly served as HQ for a “sophisticated money-laundering scheme” connected to Semion Mogilevich. `► The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. that is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.` ► Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive. Now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuiani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties tot he Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob. `► A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP--often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnel got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.` ► At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying \"...And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.\" `► Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”` ► Russian oligarchs [co-signed Trump’s Deutsche bank loans.](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lawrence-odonnell-source-says-russian-oligarchs-co-signed-trumps-deutsche-bank-loans) `Trump now gleefully takes cues from Putin:` ► At the end of 2018, Putin and his allies started making a strong push for a resolution that would justify their country’s 1979 invasion of Afghanistan and reverse an 1989 vote backed by Mikhail Gorbachev that condemned it. The Putinists’ goal was to pass the resolution by Feb. There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan. And out of nowhere, on January 2nd, Trump came out strongly supporting Russia's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan. `► Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. \"I don't care, I believe Putin\"` ► Trump met in secret with Putin the G20 summit in November 2018, without note takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria. As a note, Trump conducted FIVE completely private meetings and conferences with Putin, and has gone to great lengths to prevent literally anyone, even people in his administration, from learning what was discussed. `► Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.` ► He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events. `► Trump pulled out of the INF treaty with no explanation, which allows Putin to create long-range hypersonic missiles that threaten Europe with impunity. The US already has all the weaponry that the INF would ban the development of, so this offers us literally nothing, while allowing Russia to develop powerful new weapons to challenge our allies.` ► Demanded Russia get invited back into G7 `► Pushed the CIA to [give American intelligence to the Kremlin.](https://www.justsecurity.org/71279/trump-pushed-cia-to-give-intelligence-to-kremlin-while-taking-no-action-against-russia-arming-taliban/)` ► Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty `► Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers, and hasn't done anything about it by the time of this writing.` ► Announced troop withdrawal from Germany (America's missile defense from Russia and forward operating base against Russian aggression) ` ► And of course, Trump continues to threaten to pull out of NATO, a move so catastrophically stupid, so inconceivably cosmically myopic, I truly can't express the profundity of the idiocy. Suffice to say, pulling out of NATO would be like the only guy in a prison yard with a shotgun just throwing it over the fence for absolutely no reason, suddenly giving the people with crude homemade shivs complete power.`
posted by Tobert420 on /Impeach_Trump
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The girl accusing Waffle of this shit had already admitted to cheating on her boyfriend during the convention 6 years ago, 100s of eye witnesses saw her kissing multiple guys and even giving hand jobs to every speed runner in the scene. `Her husband ditched her at the convention and she wanted pay back. Now she wants to stream again, her husband advises against it so she jumps on the MeToo train to save her Mormon life and keep her marriage intact.` Just because you do something you regret doesnt give you the right to call it rape. `She claims she was blackout drunk but somehow recalls ever detail of what happened crystal clear. **Red Flag.**` She claims she has been silenced but the real truth came out 6 years ago and was buried because multiple people refuted her claims. **Red Flag.** `She is a Mormon and married when she was just 18 years old, her husband has talked to the person she cheated with multiple times and he claimed they were in love and he shouldnt have engaged in the CONSENSUAL ACT at the time. **Red Flag.**` She expresses her desire to stream again but knows she wouldnt be accepted in the community because of her actions and what she said 6 years ago. **Red Flag.** `A girl approached her about her behavior during the event calling her a slut/whore which made her cry, the girl then left the group of super speed run nerds and was in full control of her own judgement yet our accuser was somehow voodoo tricked into hanging out with a pack of Mario Nerds. **Red Flag.**` Im sorry, all the other cases that have been made about content creators have REAL stories behind them, they have real victims and have been dealt with accordingly. **Red Flag.** `I have no horse in this race, I dont like or dislike Waffle, but I wont see someone falsely accused for something that was already buried years ago, this person obviously has mental problems and is seeking to further herself by jumping on the bandwagon.` If you dislike Waffle thats fine, but dont jump to conclusions about something that is so obviously contrived. `Edit: looks like the battle is already partly lost. These allegations have lead loaded.gg to cover their ass, Waffle has been removed from their roster.` Edit2: Thanks for silver, at least someone can sees through the bias.
posted by Plasticious on /LivestreamFail
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So. `I game. My husband games. We are both avid gamers - him moreso than I - and he lives and breathes his computer. When I read this post out loud and he heard the amount that your (hopefully ex) fiancé blew on his computer, he asked “Does the computer suck his dick while he games? Does he shit into the chair and it power the computer for him? Even as a hardcore computer gaming enthusiast, I would be hard pressed and have to make a considerable effort to spend even HALF of what he did. I don’t know how that’s physically possible even with top-of-the-line hardware. He either grossly overpaid, or he’s telling her that’s what was spent on the computer, but he’s lying and blew it elsewhere because of the amount of unnecessary shit that he had to buy in order to get to that number in the first place. That’s fucking insanity.”` It’s been 15 minutes and he’s still ranting about how unbelievable that amount is to spend on a computer. `If I were you, and my fiancé pulled that stunt, I would tell him to marry the computer since he’s so dedicated to it that it requires all his time and our joint wedding fund.` I’m just going to leave it at that.
posted by Lharka on /relationship_advice
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2020.05.31 16:54 exploretoapp Things To Do At Home: June 1st to 7th

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Live Streaming lovelytheband At (Canada) - Fullᴴᴰ7 PM
The ArQuives Trivia Night (Pride Edition)8 PM
Virtual Kids Paint Nite10 AM
Kawai Strong Washburn: Sharks in the Time of Saviours7 PM
Beechwood Market Online Opening Day!9 AM
Online Parent Support Meeting7 PM
The Awakening of Motti Wolkenbruch - Netflix Watch Party7 PM
Happy Dog Virtual Trivia Staff Benefit!8 PM
Ice-cream Cone Cake Pops- virtual workshop4 PM
Online Live Musical Bingo8 PM
Tuesday June 2nd
Online French Classes for Grades 1 - 811 AM
Painting fun with the Paint Diva while Social Distancing 4!7 PM
Wonderful Watercolours Virtual Class7 PM
Virtual Exploration of NYC's Land Art from Past & Present5 PM
Seeing the Unseeable: Capturing an Image of a Black Hole8 PM
Disney Music Trivia Live-Stream8 PM
Immersive World-Building - Online Workshop5 PM
Belong - Online Free Bachata Musicality Workshop8 PM
Wednesday June 3rd
Virtual Guided Exhibition Tour12 PM
Bob Ross' Campfire! ~ Virtual PWJ ~ Free6 PM
A Midsummer Night's Dream: A Gaye Olde Time! Live & Online!7 PM
Battle of Brooklyn & The Stand That Saved America Webinar1 PM
Virtual Starry Night Over Hogwarts painting class6 PM
Thursday June 4th
Hydrangeas - Virtual Zoom Event7 PM
You Betta Bake with Colin Asuncion on GD TV3 PM
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A Virtual Purse for Change5 PM
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2020.02.14 06:13 autohandgun John for President

Bernie Sanders Problem
If Then This
An understandment that people are evil, lazy, slouching dogs.
Read the topics. Ok. I don’t collect Medicare Medicate I don’t have student debt, nor am I going to a mean nothing button badge school. I have tried to sell clean energy. It doesn’t sell. Middle class doesn’t exist. Good luck. Another housing price increase. I don’t take/dought I’ll see social security I don’t live in affordable housing, truth is, doesn’t exist, if it does we talk about rights… I don’t mind race from 5A educated space command. I hate third world dwellers… I hate cartel more than this.
After walking around far enough I think the banks are, actually fare. Too fare. To socialist. I believe banks should have a 3/5ths loan protical in place. For everything but 1-3k spending cards. I believe tax should read 30%-25%-20%-5%-10%-20%-25%-----------99% I think renters should pay boat loads more in tax
New large embroidered raised hand print worker card. Can’t fake. Can’t steal. IRS massive boost.
REGULATIONS I believe in regulations. I’m a regulator. BIG 5 my day 1
Insurance. so, like housing… square foot. Minus weather areas, yet still square foot. So Colorado house is 500k same size in Texas 200k same weather ish… same price. Can increase, all increases.
Medical. A huge firm of smart whatever’s… I.e a broken arm xray = <$750 Balls ultra sound = <$445 (Yeah, you can by that like a tattoo gun for 200$) It’s the rack house insurance stuff… line item by line item by line item by line item…. Water + electricity. Std check = <255 not 1550 (which then drops to 150 lemonade stand) so… you still make more… Then nothing for time.
Guns. Only can sell 1,000 per location. Monopoly location. 20,000 bullets per location. That’s it.
Tobacco. Set ammounts. Set overall monopolist ammounts.
(Not liqour)
LAST HUGE!!!! CAN NOT BE PLAYED IN PUBLIC
Setting up a radio regulation industry. Just like movies have to go through a portal. No pussy flashing.
To save the next generation. And combat gang and death horror culture on our societies.
So any PUBLIC OPEN place YOU CAN’T play this music. It can’t be played on YouTube. Or anywhere MASS PUBLIC. If it is… sue like porn going on in burger king… sue BIG.
Includes concerts. 18+ 21+… sales at record stores… anywhere… I.D required.
Cars fine. Houses fine. Parks fine. Not pools.
Radio satilight radio app radio… nada. Nothing.
Kids don’t know jesus Christ but know gucci mane. It’s sick. I’m talking taking gingles too… then your album is mass shooter relivant or death or prostitution or drugs…. You will NEVER PLAY. EVER! EVER. Ain’t the black jason aldeen or micheal jackson even. Nope. Never.
Im talking liberal evil munic hen regulators just like hollywood…
Can’t sell it through apps with out actual I.D number, proving age like crypto. Kill smear 1000 save 300,000,000
News stations now have to set up a MA lock with parent controls… so if something airs… It goes grey… then comes back on… no slips….
Federal. Just like porn not airing in the nike store not even in the porn store.
Porn requires I.D unlock. Actual. In fact I would ban internet porn if possible at 500k fine, fbi like pirate movies… go pick up a stack at the store.
After and only after this is in effect. Convince me of gun control,... then.
Tax the piss, beat the brakes off of mass, block monopoly, corporations. And only block monopolist.
Condos included.
Apartments at a leveled point
Obliterate the cartels and alqueda like organizations… way way way more green lights… not bomb strikes. GI joes. Human trafficking and all sources of large massive non legal tender. Mass tent prisions like in new mexico or nevada. Never getting out. No fly list no buy list. No grey hound list. You’re a low low low citizen forever.
A boost to IRS to calculate legal earnings, calculate business to insure it was actually legally established. 100%. No more pirate America anywhere. Period. Ever.
Legalize gay marriage. Everywhere. BUT you better build YOUR own churches. Period. Shut down any press there after.
If taxed, untax churches, moderately…
Lower immigration to heighten immigration i.e hand print cards. Corn Wallace George washington. Re direct families into NYC or Large cities to improve correct (faster) press out like 1234. No more entering level 4 nationalism areas to muutch and always be unequal. NYC has 1 million buildings… find yourself something cozy. Work with THESE places to propagandize salvation. Paid (slow) buy-in. Per family member. Work is not a buy in. Separate the flock from the COG…. Punish Mexico severely. Build a wall if nessicary.
YOU won’t work in the USA period as an illegal. PERIOD. You can visit. Hang out. Spend money. You won’t work.
CRIME
Keep all prisons and jails as is. Bail as is.
Tickets mass mass mass amounts of tickets. YOU WILL PAY. Assault 3rd degree 3,000. Like speeding. 8 ball 2,000$. Small weight 750$. Again hand print. You can’t hide anymore.
Mass revenue. With proof.
Or take it to court. On your cost. Or not. Like a traffic ticket.
No probation. No parrol. If we need more spots we’ll add them.
Felonies. Ending Three strike.
Set crime time.
Drug selling with weight. 4 years. Next time. 4 years. Next time. 4 years. Next time. 4 years.
Example. Don’t pay 3,000 NOW your in jail 1 year. Full time card. Period.
Holds of 3 days, intoxicated, whatever. No more mandatory anything, LESS it subtracts what you owe.
RRIGHTS New category “light crime” ex fire crackers… speeding… blah blah blah… Misdemeanor 1-3 years taken Felony 5 years taken
AFTER RELEASE OR PAYMENT. Full rights restored including guns.
Including voting (crime)
After time line is up, on a non repeated either category… NO ONE but a badge level can see your records. No one.
No punishment out of jail. Either in or out. O yeah there’s still restraining orders and such…
(Side category) mental health. 3 years post “treatment”, full rights do whatever. (Cry about it). No mandate no nothing. Repeate… every repeate. 3 years from that date.
Shouldn’t be scared to get treatment. No one knows anything about your health but you and doctors…
So 21 had problem. Enters military at 25… they know, and ask nothing. Period. I don’t give a (beep). Cry about it.
This is masses vs individual.
BANKING Not much. Already touched on this. You take you’re a hoe. You give you can circle their building like a shark…
It’s pimps and hoes… let’s make less hoes.
End the propaganda notion that the world owes you something. Less well they owe you something. You owe them/us.
End the notion college is salvation. Hopefully end lower level colleges, though not all. Why? Example: CO population is 5 million 1 million graduate every 10 years from college, mostly lower end. It’s a muutch false dream. You need to work. No more tax write offs for college kids. No more avoiding work.
Grants for big dogs ONLY o yeah cumladee… no more race. No more nothing. WE are equals.
This will PRESS FLANK back into the work world. Defeats worker lines by BURST NICHISM. Collapse cartel territorial aggressions. I.e slow immigration.
Make money. Find passion. Become a master.
Regulate rent per area kinda like hunger games. Really try to get states in on this. Per zip code… this is the max. This equals money in the pocket. Hopefully capitalism business creation.
Tons of small business tax write offs. Tons. On tons. Save up 3/5ths loans. =Corrective competition. Get to the gate.
No more register muutch = part time then 90 day free care = part time = food stamps = baby care = 100k
Re-Regulate disabilities and old people stuff… actual disabilities.
Old people stuff= masses… aint nobody on amazon life cures from the god flower.
Mass pills made from potatoes or whatever = cheap as dirt.
HUGE. On massive life saving patents (long as it ain’t amazon). The government can take the chemistry compound formula AWAY FROM YOU. Give it to who ever. If who ever won’t make it on a low statistic. The government will make it. Example: pharm boy. HIV. (Clause, we’ll kill them if need be).
John’s extended tax plan (You can keep the stamps and baby care your leather couch you t.v your Bentley) 1,500 in asset to date.
(Math genius will perfect this) Single + Marriage 1-10,000 33% 10,000-15,000 29% 15,000-26,000 25% 26,000-40,000 20% 40,000-60,000 17% 60,000-80,000 14% 80,000-100,000 7% 100,000-200,000 12% 200,000-400,000 17% 400,000-1,000,000 25% 1,000,000-2,000,000 27% 2,000,000-5,000,000 33%
On take outs. I.e aid. You enter into – category so -1 -2 -3 -4 depending on what you take out. There’s only 4. 1 2 3 4 positive tax return fillings now after. (Hand print card)
This continues until 87% or 007 club. This is separate from business. Business Starts at 100,000 10% Ends at 90% Hundreds of Billions.
Remember tax write offs and regulations… this is where we enter in clean energy, clean food, and such….
BIG not HUGE write offs.
Why? What if? You only make 100,000 a year 1 time. 1 year. In or Out…. There you go. Good job. Teachers married 7%. Workers Leveled 7%. Normal correct direction people 7%. And always moving forward towards it, the goal...
Does this mean less military or other spending… more aid stuff? Yup. But if you take you 110% will be a – tax return filer. We will strike even at 2,000. Light to hard. You will be struck.
There’s still state tax… There’s still state sales tax…
E7 Wife works, your real close… probably at 10-12%
E7 wife don’t work… your at 20% and a – or 2.
WINNERS & LOSERS will be a 100% guarantee. 100%. No more hand out equalism. I want it seen and known. Though all you gotta do is press press press.
Bad decisions are bad decisions. No more Ferrari gucci life.
No more flashy loan life.
Into spawn. Realism.
Example: I ride the bus. I have zero debt. I make 30 k a year. Being outted by flashy F150 papas gum ball delivery cartel crew. No. Not any more 3/5ths = 33k flat. The price will drop supply demand. So 23k flat… FLAT.
I thought about the mma ufc. 20k a fight. What does that really get you? Win. Go to the lot… turn around… does your spawn nothing. Nothing. Not any more.
No more kholes rack manakin equalism. Society needs to see its self. Period.
Mexico IS a THIRD WORLD 0 education shit hole. People don’t even know this. Here. Not anymore.
Yup irish life. Pave the streets. Literally. Work for it.
The banks WILL collapse. WE WILL collapse. Can’t let it happen. Your not coming in on a 3% 50 year fix and equalism. Not happening.
Max 30 year apr rate 6.66. Lowest 4.45… I’ll sign it. Could care less about the other ways. There going to the hood. No more level 4 grass clipping house cleaning bullshit.
Climb.
100% destroying cartel laundering and cartel business created from our American genocide. 100%
After everything is in effect… we can slowly raise in legal immigration. From the WHOLE PLANET. Fare.
I might make 3 cities the ONLY way/PATH to legality… (Murmur, FAST)… hopefully that works… your going to have to live there and such too…
Look at America like a longevity game. Start. Maximum.
THUS will save so so so so many places. So many. Normalize these places too.
I believe that it’s space command. Not racism. It’s just gotten that bad… you gotta go through the combine… that’s why… suberbia took 300 years… people still living up in the hoods… edufuckingcation or business success…
No more labor seasonal nothing. Ok.
Big city. Mass jobs… press big city population of longer longevity into the next 2 3 4 levels… ok… into infrastructure… technology.
No more rented houses… no more false beliefs. No more socialistic loans… NYC Chicago excetra… real Democrat lands as they’ve always been… by game design.
The “matrix” suberbia farms = kits & tits… success leveled education.
REGULATE Appartments into permanent condos… i.e CO and California society differential zoning problems. STATE ENCOURAGED… apps could be 1k a month next to Angelina and Brads pad… condos after a flip go for 1 million. NOW insert kiddos into schools.
It’s a small world in ant life. Lets fix it. You don’t see it. Don’t think about it. Fix what you see in area problems. Ok…
I believe this solely will prevent a MASSIVE civil unrest… and or war…
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
We are not backing off of anything we already have committed to. Until the jobs done.
We WILL engage any threat to proportion.
We are now FULLY taking over and COLONIZING new states and territories. If provoked. If un-provoked no chance. No chance on resources.
A denuclearization plan will be presented
End global warming & weather control if possible
Tax any aid given HEAVY without government consent
Tax any un-approved globalization without consent HEAVY
Work for peace
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2020.01.13 15:11 rusticgorilla Lost in the Sauce: Jan. 5 - 11

Edit 1/20/2020: I'm going to post this week's edition of Lost in the Sauce tomorrow (Tuesday) because the holiday today gives me extra time to add stuff and maybe enough time to record an audio TLDR.
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*MAIN COURSE*

Next steps in impeachment

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced on Friday that she “asked Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler to be prepared to bring to the Floor next week a resolution to appoint managers and transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate.” Pelosi decided to hold back the articles last month after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell refused to commit to an impartial trial.
In her letter, Pelosi lists new evidence of “impeachable conduct” that has emerged since the House impeached the President, supporting her decision to wait to transmit the articles of impeachment. She concludes by saying:
In an impeachment trial, every Senator takes an oath to “do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws.” Every Senator now faces a choice: to be loyal to the President or the Constitution. No one is above the law, not even the President.
Why now?
Many people have wondered why Pelosi decided to transmit the articles now, why she is not waiting longer. The Speaker has not explained her decision, but the main factor may be found in a tweet she sent right after announcing the move:
By joining a resolution to dismiss, Sen. McConnell showed his true colors. Americans have now seen what is at stake in a fair trial with witnesses & evidence, and new evidence has emerged. Every Senator will have to vote: is their loyalty is to the President or the Constitution?
The day before, McConnell signed onto Sen. Josh Hawley's resolution to change Senate impeachment rules allowing for a vote to dismiss the articles of impeachment if they're not sent to Senate within 25 days of House approval.

Witnesses

While no agreement has been made to call witnesses in the Senate trial, New York Times chief Washington Correspondent Carl Hulse reported that “there’s a growing sense among senators I’ve talked to that there will be some witnesses.” Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) told local news that she is working with a “fairly small group” of Republican senators to ensure that there will be the opportunity to call witnesses.
  • A proposal: A Salon piece argues that Joe and Hunter Biden “should call Trump’s bluff and offer to testify” in exchange for Bolton, Mulvaney, and Giuliani also testifying in the Senate trial.

Bolton’s testimony

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton released a statement on Wednesday offering to testify if the Senate issues a subpoena:
Accordingly, since my testimony is once again at issue, I have had to resolve the serious competing issues as best I could, based on careful consideration and study. I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify.
  • Why it matters: Bolton was present for many key events related to Trump’s pressure campaign on Ukraine. For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, and John Bolton sat down with Trump in August 2019 to try to convince him to release the aid to Ukraine. According to then-National Security Council Russia expert Dr. Fiona Hill, Bolton was alarmed by the backchannel pressure campaign run by Sondland, Mulvaney, and Giuliani - Hill quoted Bolton as saying: “I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up.”
Will the Senate bring Bolton in? That remains to be seen. His offer puts more pressure on the Senate to do so. Schumer pointed out that only a few Republican Senators need to break with McConnell: "It is now up to four Senate Republicans to support bringing in Mr. Bolton.”
  • Trump used national security as an excuse to continue covering up the truth about his abuse of power: Even if Bolton is subpoenaed by the Senate, and even if he complies, President Trump indicated he’ll likely invoke executive privilege to prevent Bolton from testifying about many of the pertinent events under investigation. Fox News host Ingraham asked why he’d block Bolton from testifying if he has information that would help the president. Trump responded that he’d “have to” invoke executive privilege “for the sake of the office.” He continued: “...especially a national security adviser, you can’t have him explaining all of your statements about national security concerning Russia, China, North Korea, everything. You just can’t do that.”

What should the House do?

In case it isn’t obvious, a witness can not pick and choose which subpoenas to comply with. That is exactly what Bolton is doing by specifying that he’ll comply with a Senate subpoena, when he’s previously stated that he’d fight a House subpoena in the courts. However, House impeachment investigators chose not to subpoena Bolton when conducting their inquiry. Whether that was a mistake or not is debatable; what’s more relevant now is the argument that the House should subpoena Bolton immediately.
Philip Bobbitt of Lawfare:
Because it is now clear that the Senate will not take steps to ensure that it has all the relevant information before commencing its trial of impeachment, the House should subpoena those witnesses whose testimony would determine—either way—the president’s personal culpability in the withholding of appropriated military assistance to Ukraine. There is ample reason to believe that the former national security adviser, John Bolton, can provide first-hand information on this subject. Bolton should give testimony before any transmittal of the bill of impeachment to the Senate.
If he and others similarly situated—that is, persons with first-hand knowledge of the president’s actions and motivations, such as the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo—refuse to honor subpoenas for their testimony, the House should immediately seek an injunction directing their testimony.
Constitutional scholar Heidi Kitrosser told The Washington Post:
“By stating that he would testify if the Senate subpoenas him, Bolton has effectively waived any argument against testifying should the House subpoena him,” Kitrosser said. “Bolton had no plausible claim for absolute immunity from showing up to testify in the first place. But even if he previously had such a claim, there is no plausible basis on which it would apply only against a House subpoena and not against a Senate subpoena.”
Benjamin Wittes suggests withholding the articles until Bolton testifies:
in the context of John Bolton's announcement yesterday that he's willing to testify if subpoenaed by the Senate, McConnell's announcement of his posture creates a strategic opening for Pelosi that she will not fail to notice. A subpoena from the Senate is not, after all, legally different from a subpoena from the House. With McConnell now publicly committed to moving forward without hearing from a witness who is willing to testify, Pelosi's control over the articles becomes highly significant.
Here is a card she now has in her hand. She can announce that: (1) She is not willing to hand over the articles so that McConnell can bury them without hearing from a witness who has suddenly made clear that he is, after all, available. (2) Since the Senate majority leader appears committed to a trial framework that will not hear all the available witnesses with relevant information, the House Intelligence Committee will issue the subpoena Bolton has invited instead. (3) She will hold the articles pending the completion of that testimony—and whatever litigation may be necessary to obtain it. And critically, (4) the House reserves the right to pass superseding or amended articles of impeachment in response to new information it obtains.
Will the House follow this advice?
On Sunday, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff told Face the Nation that the panel is “considering” issuing a subpoena to Bolton.

The Courts are aiding Trump

House Democrats explained that they did not issue subpoenas to key officials like Bolton because they did not want impeachment to get tied up in lengthy court cases. Last week, Slate published a piece criticizing the court system for moving so slow on Trump’s cases when - as the authors claim - “the judiciary also has the capacity to move very quickly when circumstances demand it.” They add: “Had the courts signaled a willingness to act at a pace befitting the needs of the moment, Schiff might have made a different choice.”
One could be forgiven for starting to wonder whether the courts are taking sides but doing it in a way that looks measured and restrained. The thing is: Sometimes not resolving an exigent case is a decision.
It’s been clear for some time now that the beating heart of this president’s litigation strategy is an effort to run out the clock… What’s stunning is the degree to which the courts are complicit in all this. The courts have aided and abetted the Trump legal team and Mitch McConnell by refusing to behave as if time is a factor in any of these proceedings.
Make no mistake: It is a choice to ignore a congressional subpoena, and it is a choice to claim that only a court can resolve that impasse. When that choice is taken by the president, it seems fair to ask that the courts resolve the matter with something more prompt than the “all deliberate speed” with which they allowed desegregation to drag on for years and years after Brown v. Board of Education. Sometimes, not resolving a case in time for relief of any kind is a decision. Calling it lofty institutional deliberation instead of a dodge is a play to the court of public opinion, but not a court of law.

Cost of Trump’s travel

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin is attempting to hide how much American taxpayers are paying to support the Trump family’s extravagant lifestyle. A key provision of a bill to move oversight of the Secret Service to the Treasury requires that the Secret Service disclose the costs related to the travel of the president and his adult children within 120 days after it is passed. The Trump administration balked at the time frame, insisting that the costs can only be revealed after the 2020 election.
It’s not difficult to determine why the administration prefers the delay: the Trump family's lifestyle has likely been very expensive for American taxpayers. Reporters have been able to piece together some estimates. For example, according to a Government Accountability Office report from last year, just one month of Trump travel cost $13.6 million in 2018—a figure that includes the total cost of protecting the president, not just Secret Service costs.
Another example: “A review of federal spending data by liberal super-PAC American Bridge 21st Century found 65 instances of spending by the Secret Service related to presidential golf outings, for a total of $769,520. Another four line items for Secret Service spending related to Mar-A-Lago—the president’s private club, which has no golf course but is often home base for his Florida golfing weekends—brought the total to $950,000.”

DC Hotel

The Trump Organization is moving forward with plans to sell the lease to its D.C. Hotel, which is currently at the center of Emoluments lawsuits and congressional investigations. The Washington Post reported that interested buyers have until Jan. 23 to submit initial bids. In an earlier statement, the Trump Organization said it would try to sell the lease for $500 million, though experts believe that amount is “unrealistically high.”
You may remember: A sales brochure obtained by CNN last year promoted the hotel’s ability to attract business from foreign governments. "Tremendous upside potential exists for a new owner to fully capitalize on government related business upon rebranding of the asset," the pitch says.
Sold out
Regardless of future plans to sell the lease to the hotel, it seems Trump has yet again raised prices in his hotel on specific nights - nights that relate to political events.
Is President Trump already planning a re-election party at his DC hotel on election night? Maybe so, as rooms at Trump International Hotel are entirely unavailable on November 2nd and 3rd. Those dates just happen to be the day before and the night of the 2020 presidential election. And not only that: The night after the election a basic room costs $1,600, a major spike of nearly 5 times the average cost, which is around $331.
The high rate on November 4th suggests that the hotel’s unavailability on the two days before has to do with high demand: Perhaps the hotel sold out because Trumpworld insiders already booked their rooms, or a political group booked up blocks of rooms for a party. No matter what, President Trump will be making even more money than usual from his DC hotel on the nights around the 2020 presidential election.

Trump Org’s fraud

De Blasio says Trump Organization tax practices referred to DA for review and potential charges:
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio said Friday that he had asked Manhattan’s district attorney to investigate discrepancies ProPublica and WNYC revealed last fall between what President Donald Trump’s company reported in filings to city tax officials and what it reported in loan filings. The discrepancies made his properties seem more profitable to a lender and less profitable to the city’s tax authorities.

Iran conflict

Reasons become clear

The Wall Street Journal reported that impeachment played a large role in the choice to kill Iranian Gen. Soleimani: “Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate, associates said.”
This reporting was backed up The New York Times: Trump “told some associates that he wanted to preserve the support of Republican hawks in the Senate in the coming impeachment trial, naming Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas as an example, even though they had not spoken about Iran since before Christmas.”
Meanwhile, the Trump administration has offered contradictory justifications for the strike. On Friday, Trump made a new claim: Gen. Soleimani was planning attacks on four U.S. embassies. When confronted with this assertion on Face the Nation, Defense Secretary Esper denied knowledge of such a threat: “I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies.” Senator Chris Murphy pointed out that nothing about imminent attacks on embassies was mentioned during the full Senate briefing earlier in the week.
Rep. Justin Amash: The administration didn’t present evidence to Congress regarding even one embassy. The four embassies claim seems to be totally made up. And they have never presented evidence of imminence—a necessary condition to act without congressional approval—with respect to any of this. (tweet)
  • Interesting fact: In a September 2015 memo to Steve Bannon, unofficial Trump campaign adviser Erik Prince advocated for the killing of Soleimani, who Prince called “the Heinrich Himmler of the Iranian State.” Prince criticized the Obama administration’s handling of Iran, writing "that Soleimani and his ilk are not already DEAD is a national disgrace for America."
Monday morning update: NBC News reports that “Trump authorized the killing of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani seven months ago if Iran's increased aggression resulted in the death of an American, according to five current and former senior administration officials...The timing, however, could undermine the Trump administration's stated justification for ordering the U.S. drone strike... Officials have said Soleimani, the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force, was planning imminent attacks on Americans and had to be stopped.”

Resolution

The House passed a non-binding resolution on Thursday seeking to ensure any future military action against Iran is approved by Congress beforehand.
Earlier Thursday, Pelosi said they purposely took this approach to ensure that the chamber could send a clear message to the president. "We are taking this path because it does not require ... a signature of the president of the United States," she said. "This is a statement of the Congress of the United States, and I will not have that statement be diminished by whether the president will veto it or not."
  • The resolution was adopted by a 224-194 vote. Republican Reps. Matt Gaetz of Florida, Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Francis Rooney of Florida crossed party lines to vote in favor while Democratic Reps. Max Rose of New York, Ben McAdams of Utah, Anthony Brindisi of New York, Joe Cunningham of South Carolina, Elaine Luria of Virginia, Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey, Kendra Horn of Oklahoma and Stephanie Murphy of Florida voted against the resolution. Trump was reportedly angered by Gaetz’ support for the resolution

Russia benefits

The Soleimani strike has had an interesting side effect: strengthening Russia’s position in the Middle East and weakening America’s global stance.
Since its pivotal intervention in the Syrian civil war in 2015, Russia has sought to position itself as a major player in the Middle East, establishing itself as a rare broker that is on good terms with all of the region’s feuding powers. Now Moscow has a fresh chance to solidify that reputation… [The strike] provides Putin with new opportunities to achieve two of his long-standing goals: undermining U.S. credibility and expanding Russia’s footprint across the Middle East. (Foreign Policy)
As a country that likes to portray itself as a peer to the United States, Russia benefits from being able to point to a U.S. precedent, just as it pointed to the U.S. bombing of Yugoslavia to justify its invasion of Georgia in 2008. The Soleimani killing provides Moscow a potentially useful precedent should it decide, for instance, to target a Ukrainian official on some dubious pretext in the future. (Center for Strategic and International Studies)
Russian state media is portraying Soleimani as an ally, someone to be admired. Meanwhile, pro-Kremlin voices are saying that Trump killed Soleimani to distract from the impeachment proceedings and provide a boost in his re-election chances.

*THE SIDES*

Facebook

Immediately following the Soleimani strike, Trump’s campaign took to Facebook to praise and thank him for taking out the Iranian general. “Thanks to the swift actions of our Commander-in-Chief, Iranian General Qassem Soleimani is no longer a threat to the United States, or to the world,” the ad says. “Take the Official Trump Military Survey TODAY to let me know what you think of my leadership as Commander-in-Chief.” According to Vice News, Trump’s reelection campaign has purchased over 768 “self-congratulatory” Facebook ads.
In fact, the most popular posts about Iran on Facebook last week were ones written by pages run by President Trump. Since Dec. 31, Trump’s Iran-related Facebook posts have collectively received over 4.1 million interactions.
Both native Facebook content and third-party links on the platform are either overwhelmingly pro-Trump or posted directly by Trump. Eight of the ten most-interacted-with posts containing the keyword “Iran” published to Facebook in the last month were posted by Trump’s personal Facebook page, according to social metrics site BuzzSumo.
Disinformation allowed
Despite Twitter’s decision to ban ads from politicians, Facebook refuses to even fact-check political advertisements. Instead, the company is placing the responsibility on the user: sometime in Summer 2020, users in the U.S. will have the ability to change an obscure account setting to see “fewer” political ads.
Federal Election Commissioner Ellen Weintraub: “These so-called 'transparency' solutions are neither transparent nor solutions... I am not willing to bet the 2020 elections on the proposition that Facebook has solved its problems with a solution whose chief feature appears to be that it doesn't seriously impact the company's profit margins."

Investigate Barr

The New York City Bar Association has sent a letter to Congressional leaders, urging them “to commence formal inquiries into a pattern of conduct by Attorney General William P. Barr that threatens public confidence in the fair and impartial administration of justice.”
The letter asserts that in several extended public statements during the past few months, Mr. Barr has disregarded “bedrock obligations for government lawyers,” including “to avoid even the appearance of partiality and impropriety, and to avoid manifesting bias, prejudice, or partisanship in the exercise of official responsibilities.” (NYC Bar)

Hillary exonerated...again

The Washington Post reported last week that the Justice Department is closing its 2-year long investigation into Clinton’s business dealings - including the allegation (pushed by Trump) that she had played a role in giving Russia a profitable uranium deal - after not finding any crimes or misconduct.
Former federal prosecutor Joyce White Vance: "Nothing." This appropriate result still doesn't erase the unforgivable sin that AG Sessions committed by opening a criminal investigation to please the president. DOJ is not a tool for presidents to use against people they think are their enemies. (Tweet)

Defamation lawsuit

A New York State Supreme Court judge rejected Trump’s attempt to have E. Jean Carroll’s defamation lawsuit against him thrown out. Justice Doris Ling-Cohan ruled that Carroll can now proceed with her lawsuit that alleges that Trump defamed her when he made public comments denying that he raped her.
Trump said in June that Carroll was “totally lying,” calling the accusation “fake news.” He said they had never met, though a 1987 photo shows them and their then-spouses at a social event. Trump dismissed the picture, saying he was just “standing with my coat on in a line.”

Flynn and Stone updates

The Justice Department recommended that former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn serve up to six months in prison for lying to the FBI about his Russian contacts after the 2016 election. Prosecutors had previously requested leniency from the court, but reversed the decision when Flynn hired a new legal team that claimed he was “tricked” into pleading guilty. Flynn’s sentencing is set for Jan. 28 before U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in Washington.
U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper ruled last week that materials related to the arrest of Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone should be released to media outlets within 60-days. These documents include search warrants and information seized during the FBI’s investigation into possible contacts between Trump’s campaign and Moscow. Stone’s sentencing for obstruction and witness tampering charges is scheduled for Feb. 20.

Parnas delivers

Joseph Bondy, the lawyer representing Giuliani associate Lev Parnas, tweeted on Sunday that he delivered the contents of Parnas’ iPhone to the House Intelligence Committee. Parnas claims there is evidence on the phone that is relevant to the impeachment investigations.

Selling troops

During Trump’s interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Friday, the President admitted to “sell[ing] troops,” as characterized by Rep. Justin Amash.
Trump: “Saudi Arabia is paying us for [our troops]. We have a very good relationship with Saudi Arabia. I said, listen, you’re a very rich country. You want more troops? I’m going to send them to you, but you’ve got to pay us. They’re paying us. They’ve already deposited $1 billion in the bank.”

Immigration news

  • The Seattle Times: The Department of Homeland Security’s Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties is opening an investigation into the many reports of people being stopped and questioned for hours last weekend at the Canadian border… The vast majority of stops appear to have occurred at the Peace Arch Border Crossing in Blaine and affected people of Iranian descent, although two others of different Middle Eastern heritage also told The Seattle Times they went through a similar ordeal.
  • Buzzfeed News: The Trump administration has been preparing to expand its travel ban — which bars individuals from seven countries from entering the US — to restrict certain immigrants from several more nations around the world, according to internal government documents obtained by BuzzFeed News. It is unclear whether the administration will issue the restrictions. But the draft documents suggest it has been actively preparing to do so by creating materials to engage with the media, alongside a draft presidential proclamation.
  • NYT: The Trump administration will deport some Mexicans seeking asylum at the United States border to Guatemala as part of a deal that had been praised by Department of Homeland Security officials as a way to deter migration from Central America...In theory, an asylum seeker from Juárez, Mexico, could be deported from the El Paso, Texas, border crossing a mile from his home to the Guatemalan border nearly 2,000 miles away.
  • NPR: A federal appeals court has handed the Trump administration a victory by allowing the president to tap military construction funds to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. A divided 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued the decision late Wednesday, reversing a lower court order that stopped Trump from using $3.6 billion in U.S Defense Department money to construct the long-promised border wall.
  • CBS News: A federal appeals court in New York on Wednesday refused to allow the Trump administration to implement a sweeping rule that would make it easier for the government to reject applications for green cards and visas from immigrants who it determines are or could become burdens on U.S. taxpayers.
  • NBC News: A federal judge has ordered the Department of Homeland Security to return a gay asylum-seeker who was deported to Chad, ruling that the government had not properly considered his asylum claim based on his status as a gay man before deporting him.
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2019.12.06 18:37 MrSwearword MADAME X: COURSE CORRECTION, RENEWED SPIRIT & THE CONUNDRUM OF IDENTITY

ARTIST: Madonna
ALBUM: Madame X
RELEASED: June 14th, 2019
LISTEN: Spotify
Apple Music
BACKGROUND: Madonna’s 14th studio album was a series of words that seemed improbable but not impossible to see come to fruition. The same was said for her 13th studio album, the fairly received yet commercial anomaly Rebel Heart. What the eventual 14th album, Madame X, ended up having in common with the 13th was its conflicting commercial presence. However, Madonna in her 14th incarnation/3rd incarnation for Interscope Records possessed a renewed spirit and doing something for the hell of it.
Doing something unexpected for the hell of it is a base although factual shorthand description of Madonna’s career. However, this time it seemed truer in an unexpected fashion, beginning the recording process after being lonely in Portugal; a country she moved to, in an attempt to furthejumpstart a career in soccer for her son David. To combat the loneliness, she sought musical refuge in the company of Dino D’Santiago and would eventually turn to mapping out a Latin meets North and West African meets Portuguese [Portugal and Brazil’s iterations of the language getting representation] soundscape. In layman’s terms, it’s world music on speed. “What the hell is a Madame X?” you ask; according to Madonna, it was a moniker she earned for her renegade behavior at the Martha Graham school of dance given by Graham herself; a moniker cast upon her only because of her perceived insolence…a scarlet letter in its own right. Contextually, Madame X is an accidental soccer mom whose musical solace is in living room sessions with a multitude of local musicians.
Released in the summer of 2019, Madame X became four things; Madonna’s 9th #1 album in the U.S., her 14th Top 10 album [or 13th Top 3 album or 12th Top 2 album depending on which chart achievement matters more to you] but also the largest drop from #1 for a female artist as it landed at #77 the very next week [or 4th largest drop from #1 in history depending on which sounds worse to you] and her first commercially released album to not yield a single entry on the Billboard Hot 100. So how does this still qualify for consideration as an Album of the Year? Bitch, it’s Madonna.
REVIEW: For this section, I’m sharing my thoughts on the three official singles [even if the 3rd one is only serviced to Italy], the two promotional singles and the two video singles [or at least the two songs that got a “John Wayne” or “White Mustang” treatment of “fuck it, here’s a video”.]
“Ven conmigo, let’s take a chance”
“Medellin”: serviced as the lead single to the world of Madame X; a cha-cha instructor who took a pill and had a dream. The Popheads Jukebox scored this a 5.40 and being the blurb for the review, I could just post said blurb of “It's mediocre past a really shitty opening lyric but has something of a renewed spirit in the Queen of Pop.” and be done with it but I at least want to point out the only real gripe I have with a mediocre song like this. Personally, I’ve found that drugs have never been Madonna's vice to sing about; she embodies sex and if it sucked on “Devil Pray” from Rebel Heart, it sucks here too.
The good news is that aside from a fanmade remix of the song that omits Maluma entirely, there are listenable official remixes that even have the feature sound good on it.
RECOMMENDED REMIXES: the LA95 Dancefloor Legend X Remix [available on the Remixes Pt. 2 digital/streaming release] & the Offer Nissim Madame X In The Sphinx with or without intro [with intro runs 5:30 on the first remixes released for digital/streaming; with no intro runs at 5:12 on Remixes Pt. 2]
“’Cause you’re the one I crave, and my cravings get dangerous”
“Crave”: The second song to survive the “is it promo? Is it actually a single?” gulag of Madame X is the collaboration with Swae Lee, who by 2019 had a #1 in the form of “Sunflower” with Post Malone and 3 other notable hit songs as one half of the rap group Rae Sremmurd including the #1 “Black Beatles” with Gucci Mane. “Crave” ended up being serviced as a Hot/Modern/AC single and ended up peaking at #11 which was noted as her most successful effort for that chart since the #8 “Frozen” from Ray of Light. The song as it stands didn’t do much as far as his feature on the song which amounted to “ride me like a wave”. Madonna herself presents a song that although does nothing for her disciplined vocal style does present her songwriting prowess. “I'm tired of being far away from home/Far from what can help, far from where it's safe” is a poetic description of the song’s overall story of risking emotional or general stability for someone who’s really good in bed.
In terms of remixes, the first one was the MNEK remix released on August 8th. The second official remix release was one by Tracy Young Dangerous Remix which acts as a music video edit with a runtime of 4:08. On October 24th, the first set of remixes were released to Spotify and include two by Tracy Young, two by Benny Benassi & BB Team and 4 other listed remixes by RNG, Otto Benson, Twisted Dee & Diego Fernandez and Dan De Leon & Anthony Griego.
RECOMMENDED REMIXES: the Tracy Young Radio Edit & the Benny Benassi & BB Team radio edit
“Died a thousand times; managed to survive”
“I Rise”: Originally a 2nd promotional single that was serviced to Italy as the album’s 3rd overall single. This time, Madonna is assisted by a sample of Parkland/Stoneman Douglas shooting survivor Emma Gonzalez and her “We Call BS” speech. The song received some form of music video treatment though not officially on Madonna’s channel. Linking up with Time Studios, footage of global demonstrations ranging from gun control to LGBT rights interspersed with gymnast Aly Raisman’s testimony regarding sexual abuse, there really was no other way to give video treatment of a song like “I Rise”. The song stands as my absolute favorite, which is why when the remixes came about, I was weirded out.
How can a makeshift anthem of social justice movements be remixed and not sound like it’s glossing over everything that made “I Rise” good? Although not recommended, DJ Tracy Young [longtime DJ hunty of Madonna] did commission a PRIDE themed remix which was performed at WorldPride NYC 2019 which marked the 50-year anniversary of the Stonewall Riots. In that regard, the remixes do try to bring out euphoria by way of “light at the end of the tunnel” or “rainbow after the storm” mentality when attempting to cope with loss.
RECOMMENDED REMIXES: Kue Drops The Funk Remix & Thomas Gold Remix, available on the official digital/streaming remixes compilation.
PROMOTIONAL SINGLES
“Not everyone is coming to the future/Not everyone is learning from the past”
“Future”: For some Diplo based reason, Quavo; a member of the rap group Migos appears on a Madonna album. The dancehall tinged track is reminiscent of a Rebel Heart deep cut, “Unapologetic Bitch”, which despite ardent defenders is a misstep as its attempt at vaguely reggae production falls flat and becomes monotonous. Lyrically, aside from the bridge making reference to the Music single “Don’t Tell Me” with the lines “Don’t tell me to stop ‘cause you said so (Oh, yeah) …Tell the sun not to shine (Bright) ‘cause you said so”, “Future” is mostly underwritten and flatly delivered even with the fluke greatness of the featured lyrics. Overall, “Future” suffers from trying to inject some form of contemporary “culture” but ends up coming up short in the same way a nadir from the last album did.
“They think we are not aware of their crimes/We know, but we are just not ready to act”
“Dark Ballet”: FUN FACT, this song and the previous one here were more or less engrained in public consciousness when they were performed at the Eurovision Song Contest 2019…in Tel Aviv, Israel…look at the lyrics mentioned, and Madonna chose those lyrics. to perform. in ISRAEL. Aside from a snippet that more or less led to a lawsuit against Live Nation, “Dark Ballet” started off as “Beautiful Game” and was originally debuted as a surprise sneak peek of new material at the 2018 Met Gala. Of the two promotional singles, DB is by far the superior track. Who else but Madonna would incorporate Tchaikovsky’s “Dance of the Reed-Flutes” into a song that ironically admonishes modern society for being obsessed with fame?
VIDEO SINGLES
“It’s a weird kind of energy, a bizarre thing that happens to be/An abnormal fraternity, and I feel more than sympathy”
“God Control”: A song best described as “battlefield disco” upon release day by forum gays and social media gays alike, this gun control inspired track received video treatment…haunting, legitimately awe inducing video treatment. On June 26th, the Jonas Akerlund directed video for “God Control” was released revolving around a depiction of a mass shooting strongly inspired by if not resembling the 2016 Pulse nightclub shooting, the 2nd deadliest in American history. The visual cues of the shooting, the typewriter sequences of Madame X writing but scrapping everything thus being reflective of the constant frustration of putting mass shootings into words [thanks to popheads hunty akanewasright for pointing that out] along with footage of pro-gun control demonstrations, had “God Control” be brought to life in fantastically macabre framework.
Controversy didn’t necessarily come about until Emma Gonzalez, the source of the “I Rise” sample, referred to the video as “fucked up” which yes indeed it is, but is the ultimate point of the video. It’s fucked up this shit keeps happening and it’s about goddamn time assault weapons were banned from public consumption.
All this and that’s not even covering the bit of controversy in the RuPaul’s Drag Race universe involving All Stars 4 current sharing…err co-winner Monet X Change, the production company behind Haters Roast, Murray & Peter and what ended up being a 1.33 second cameo for the Xchange Rate hostess or even the music video being snubbed from the 2019 MTV Video Music Awards in general but especially in the category Video For Good [formerly known as Best Video with a Social Message] which in no uncertain terms is fucking ridiculous.
“There's a storm ahead (There's a storm ahead)/I hear the wind blowing (I hear the wind blowing)”
“Batuka”: Inspired by the musical style Batuque from Cape Verde and in turn local drummers known as Batukadeiras, this track opted for a subtle take on uncomfortable truth. Per the documentary, The World of Madame X, Portugal is pointed out as the “birthplace of slavery” with Cape Verde being one of the if not the first places effected by this. The documentary also sees Madonna referring to this song as reflective of a journey which does seem to ring true. On album release day, this wasn’t a song I used if at all besides the production being stellar. Some listens later, I’ve softened toward the song and ended up being a bigger fan of the video as seeing the Batukadeiras and Madonna throughout and especially at the end was the more effective way of handling the song.
OTHER SONGS OF NOTE FROM MADAME X
Aside from the 7 songs that received some form of music video, radio or single proper release, the following songs are the ones I would personally recommend, and each have their own way of adding to the mythos of the album.
“The thing that hurt the most/was that I wasn’t lost.”
“Extreme Occident” – the song first teased in the YouTube trailer for Madame X. “Extreme Occident” seems to inadvertently build off of an unreleased AL era track called “Set the Right” in which a center is what’s needed for completion [think Maslow’s self-actualization] moving from a far right to a far left to be “centered”. The main reason I recommend this song, aside from it being my personal favorite deep cut of the entire album is the sharply crafted lyric featured.
“I spent all night waitin' up/It's gon' be the last night I wait up for you.”
“Crazy” – a song in which Madonna sings portions of it in Portuguese. This is the track I’d recommend because despite accessibility not entirely being the point of the album, this is the most beginner friendly deep cut to attempt to digest the pluralistic concept of Madame X.
“I'm in the sky where I oughta be at, I've been watching you”
“Come Alive” – a song based on the North African style of music called gnawa. Per the documentary The World of Madame X, gnawa came about when the newly freed slaves turned the shackles that originally imprisoned them into makeshift percussive instruments [that are now known as qraqabs/krakebs or large iron castanets.] Although not immediately wowed by it, I had always secretly thought of this as a deus ex machina but in music or some kind of heavenly loop. Still, it is a track I wholly recommend because of its uniquely peppy cadence.
“We live between life and death/Waiting to move on/And in the end/We accept it”
“I Don’t Search I Find” – If there’s one song on the album that’s a blatant groovy dance song, it’s this song which more or less acts like the character of Madame X on a mission spying in the house of love. It doesn’t make sense on the album but that doesn’t take away the fact that this 90s house/club/dance track is exceptionally made and of anything between Madonna’s last three albums, sounds the most radio friendly.
Taking It Personal: For this section, I’ll be going semi op-ed on you all by relaying my thoughts about Madame X and what it means for Madonna and the scope of 2019.
Madonna in the 2010s/Interscope era of her 37-year career has brought about a mix of commercial success and critical acclaim though the two haven’t been mutual one bit. In 2012, MDNA saw commercial success as it garnered her the #10 peaking song “Give Me All Your Luvin’” [and to date her last Top 10 entry on the Hot 100] but saw critical disdain and fans calling it a disappointment or more bluntly, her worst album. In 2015, Rebel Heart garnered critical success and even had fans referring to this as a mild return to form, but saw the first #2 peak since Ray of Light on the BB200 and having only seen chart success after the “MadonnaArmy” on Twittesocial media had campaigned for the 3rd single released, “Bitch, I’m Madonna” to chart at all; it worked as it debuted and peaked at #84 shortly after the video’s release [and in turn the campaign to get the video to 100 million views on YouTube] and as it stands is Madonna’s latest Hot 100 chart entry. As hinted at before, Madame X has seen the same sort of commercial anomaly as RH but managed to debut and peak at #1 despite no single breaking the Hot 100. As it stands on Metacritic, the album has attained a score of 70 based on 21 reviews, 12 positive and 9 mixed with a user score of 8.9, tied with the 2005 released Confessions on a Dance Floor. One way to process the ongoing commercial and critical anomaly is to delve into the concept known as “course correction.”
“Course correction” refers to any pop album seen as a return to form after a relative flop status in terms of critical reception and/or commercial success. In the case of Madonna, there have been two major moments in the 2000s and 2010s that reflect this concept. 2005’s Confessions on a Dance Floor is viewed as a comeback but acts as course correction after the 2003 released American Life failed to yield a Top 30 single and saw a critical thrashing with the nicest way of saying it coming from AllMusic in which the reviewer notes, “American Life is better for what it promises than what it delivers, and it's better in theory than practice.” As YouTube music critic and relative darling of the subreddit Todd in the Shadows puts it, “[the album]…did less to end the war then it did to end the Madonna era of pop music…” and further noting, “…and yet American Life still represents a serious demarcation line in her discography.” That particular line will represent another concept, the sister albums, further down the line.
The other course correction comes in the form of albums 13 and 14, Rebel Heart and Madame X, cleaning up the mess MDNA made in 2012 [though it should be noted some fans of Madonna throw the 2008 released Hard Candy with MDNA as the serious nadirs in her post American Life career.] Aside from the lead single and third single “Turn Up The Radio” being among the worst Madonna songs ever released, MDNA faced the scorn of critics and some fans alike for not being enough of a “Madonna album.” If I’ve surmised everything through forum lurking and other research, the main flaw is that the album was too contemporary or current for an artist as “forward thinking” or ahead of the trend as Madonna. Sure, it may have garnered a #10 hit at the time of her Superbowl Halftime Show, but that seemingly empty commercial success seemed to be the worst kind of success Madonna had ever attained. Intentionally or not, RH and MX were both constructed to veer away from the easy but non-gratifying success of MDNA. Where RH failed in theory but not that much in practice was the attempt at splitting the difference between Madonna looking ahead but also introducing the elements of nostalgia and retrospect [which again is a theoretical disaster that should have plagued the album from the jump.] Madame X inadvertently succeeds by splitting the difference between being about an “American Life” looking ahead and through adopting many identities [which in turn represents the many viewpoints and perspectives she’s partaken in throughout her career.] In Layman’s terms, “Madame X” is a professional cultural nomad.
Something that was even clockable in “Medellin” was a renewed spirit which acts as her caring about an album of music without the aspirations of commercial success but a desire to engage in the pageantry that is TV interviews or a televised premiere of the lead single and award show performances on a Billboard Music Awards scale. By the same token, the intent behind the pageantry was intentionally postured as pertinent in the form of a “wake up call”. That had been tried before on American Life but on Madame X, it’s from someone 37 years into their craft as opposed to 21 years into their craft. Moreover, the biggest difference is that Madonna’s career isn’t under the same media scrutiny in 2019 than it had been in 2003 and that’s not even accounting that a documentary based on AL, I’m Going to Tell You a Secret, had been released around that time. At a base level, it’s the difference between the media cycle of the late 90s/early 00s and the 24/7 media circus that is social media. By the same token, the only way any press or controversy that emerged for the album that feels like the point of it is being met is almost exclusively within the 24/7 media circus of social media. The only reason any backlash for the “God Control” video even occurred is because Emma Gonzalez took to Twitter to call out Madonna to tell her that the video was fucked up. Even with that much legitimate backlash, in internet terms, the buzz was here today and gone tomorrow. AL was an attempt at a wakeup call when TV and radio were the driving forces of pop star and media coexistence, that wasn’t well received because of timing [2003 AKA the start of the War in Iraq]; MX was another attempt at a wakeup call with mostly positive reception but wasn’t all that different from major accounts on Twitter or social media were saying about any social issue, let alone the ones Madonna tied in with the album. It also reads as preaching to the choir, or at least the choir that’s still invested in Madonna post 2012. American Life and Madame X are sister albums in regard to trying to get their point across but being resisted by the culture surrounding them save for a devout few.
“What are you talking about when you say sister albums?” you ask. It’s a concept that I hadn’t heard of until I had been lurking forums gauging the ongoing reactions to MX. “Sister albums” refers to a specific grouping or classification in terms of Madonna’s discography; albums that have the same recurring themes, production choices/same producer, etc. In the case of Madame X, there’s two sister album pairings that make sense; pairing it with American Life and Rebel Heart with the other being pairing it with American Life and Music [the reason why it’s three is that most of these are “holy trinity” style groupings.] If it hasn’t already been made clear by now, MX is essentially viewed as the revenge of AL and the more focused RH with the three of them sharing some level of fan adoration, highbrow conceptual aspirations and in varying degrees a sense of urgency in those works. In the case of AL, MX and Music, all three have Mirwais Ahmadzaï production to varying levels of success and are difficult to describe in their states of existence. Via a PopJustice rate of Madonna’s 2000s/21st century output from Music to Rebel Heart, Music is described as “one of Madonna's weirdest albums ever…” with the album coming across as “…something that gets overshadowed in the face of the deceptively shallow lead single and the fact that the admittedly few singles from it don't really tell the full story of it either.” while American Life is described as an anomaly and “where she’s her most honest about her honesty.” Yet there are two very telling statements in those writeups that tie back into Madame X and why it’s not totally inaccessible but hard to process at first. “Mirwais' best and worst feature as a producer is how he treats everything like it's elastic.” and “What they should hear is the life of an American that just so happens to be the most successful female music artist of all time.” The latter being pointed out after posing the question, “Does anyone listen to American Life in full and really hear attempts blistering socio-political commentary that would make her the nation’s pariah?” but replace AL with MX and emphasize “the nation’s pariah” to get the picture. The final point to make about how AL and MX are sister albums [keeping it to two albums only]; both were criticisms of an interpretation of “American life” made in Western Europe.
That in turn leads to the few but righteous hits in critiquing the album. A lot of this stems from the documentary, The World of Madame X. The first being her attempts at polymerizing the “organic” and “authentic” feeling of a living room session with her love of making things like voices “not human”. In other words, it’s a case of screwy juxtaposition and that’s not the first time that’s happened. The album titles “Hard Candy” and “Rebel Heart” were postured as diametrically opposed to one another, but neither of those made sense. Case in point, a hard candy or at least most of them can be dissolved or made less “hard” but will still be sweet; the other being Madonna kept describing herself as a romantic and a rebel, even though a rebel can be made good or that “rebel” is subjective based on whatever that person is rebelling against but regardless are capable of romance. That’s not even taking in my personal view that both are probably concepts that work better in another language like Spanish or Italian [think about a bilingual friend of yours and how “stuck” they can sound in English when describing something like true love or a rather niche feeling or emotional state.] Madame X attempts to posture “universal” or “big” topics with intimacy especially “earned” intimacy. The problem with that pairing is that one gets overpowered by the other, especially with any additional criterion to meet. “God Control” and “I Rise” are both the big topic songs dealing with gun control and gay rights respectively, but was any intimacy really contingent let alone “earned” or deemed acceptable for either song to exist let alone make the album? The first verse of the martyr persona of “Madame X”, “Killers Who Are Partying” are as follows:
I will be gay, if the gay are burned/I'll be Africa, if Africa is shut down/I will be poor, if the poor are humiliated/And I'll be a child, if the children are exploited
Those lines and in turn the only other English portions of the song not including the chorus [“I'll be Islam, if Islam is hated/I'll be Israel, if they're incarcerated/I'll be Native Indian, if the Indian has been taken/And I'll be a woman, if she's raped and her heart is breaking”] are intentionally crafted to be uncomfortable because by “Madame X” logic, the way to overcome the terrible things in everyday life is to openly confront these ugly truths and dark realities. None of that is “intimate” let alone part of the superfluous prerequisites set out to be worthy of making the album or “earning” a place there.
That in turn leads to the other righteous hit the album has to take involving the fact that even with the living room sessions being about “passion” as “money had nothing to do with it; fame had nothing to do with it; Instagram followers had nothing to do with it.” one half of Rae Sremmurd, one third of Migos, Anitta; a quintessential internet/stan Twitter pop princess and Maluma; a rising if not already comfortably established reggaeton sensation (on two tracks, one of which was the lead single) are on this album. That from the song “Funana” are the lyrics “We need Elvis and Bob Marley/We need Whitney, we need James Brown” and “We need Aretha and George Michael/We need Bowie, we need 2Pac/And Avicii and Mac MilleFreddie Mercury, Prince Rogers Nelson”. This is the result of Madonna having a conundrum of identity and not just because she based an entire album on a name once given to her by her dance teacher in her youth. She attempts to split the difference between being worldly but still inadvertently attempting to fanservice most modern American listeners. In a very personal take on this jarring tonal clash, it’s rather pretentious to adulate a globalized palette only to turn around and feed into “real music” sentiments by giving shout outs to deceased artists such as Elvis Presley, Bob Marley, David Bowie and Prince. It’s also an almost tasteless move to shout out two deceased artists of the 2010s, Avicii and Mac Miller [not even considering she hadn’t even worked with the latter professionally] but namedropping them just flat out doesn’t sit well with me along with the aforementioned “real music” servicing. That’s not even accounting for this bit from the documentary regarding social media, specifically Instagram; “Actually, we have no connection to people and Instagram is a lie.” Aside from any and every “who bought followers”/”real vs. fake” followers graph that was ever published to the filters or photo editing that transpires, this isn’t particularly groundbreaking let alone justification for the earlier adulations of the living room sessions and the “organic” vibes emanating from them.
Despite these clashing tonal shifts and especially in spite of them, Madame X is fundamentally the most “Madonna” album of her Interscope tenure to date. Any other album with this many contradictory elements would get thrashings left and right, but Madame X works because only Madonna can pull off esoteric world music mixed with spiky, steely and textured electronic pop beats. It’s an album that polymerizes uncomfortable truths about the world at large with ongoing self-reflection and a desire to move ahead despite the weight of the world being on their mind constantly. Even two bouts of pageantry regarding the era stick out as reference points for the clash. First, an MTV [UK but was still aired in the U.S.] interview and world premiere of the “Medellin” music video that despite having Madonna [frankly be bothered to show up] was plagued by haphazard interviewing [basically, any Madonna gay worth their salt will tell you to never cut her off in the middle of an answer], a satellite contingent Q&A with fans around the globe which went about as expected and the fact that Maluma was in Miami and couldn’t be bothered to be with her in the interview [despite being on the lead single for the album] did have Madonna in mostly good spirits. Secondly, the fact that she’s on a theater tour for the hell of it even if the start date had to be changed due to scheduling conflicts and there was knee injury that was said to take three days to recover from, not to mention lateness that had plagued her since at least Rebel Heart and maybe MDNA tours before it; NME reporting one hour late for the opening show and two hours late as reported by Huffington Post UK] (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/madonna-madame-x-tour-late_uk_5d8206eee4b070d468c4697a), a literal lawsuit filed on November 4th from an irate Florida fan who spent upwards of $1,000 on three tickets for a December dateand that’s not including shady fan Instagram accounts with Twitter screenshots of irate fans voicing their disdain at Madonna’s tardiness especially given the ticket prices.
The Madame X era didn’t come easy which is how Madonna wanted it and at least that will always be evident in her output for the rest of her career. Challenging expectations both present and not is what she’s been doing for now 14 albums and to be frank, she’ll be goddamned if she’s not going down without a fight.
Discussion Questions: Now we come to the part where you can use these questions as starting points to relay your thoughts on Madame X as an album, its single releases, how you think it fared compared to other Madonna albums in its album cycle, etc.
As previously stated, this album unfortunately marked the first ever commercially released album of Madonna to not yield a single charting entry on the Billboard Hot 100. What would your reasoning be as to why this happened?
For all the connections made to American Life, do you think Madame X will attain and sustain the same fan favorite/underrated/cult following as its sister album?
Per the Wikipedia page for the album, Madame X is labeled genre wise as Latin, trap and art pop.)How accurately would you surmise the description? If inaccurate, how would you describe the genre/s of the album?
If media attention were the same on Madonna today as it was in 2003/AL era, which moment/single release [be it official, promo or video single] would have garnered the most controversy or buzz and why?
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2019.11.20 02:30 RaidenIsCool Epic Tale Inside: Me (28M) and my girlfriend (24F), Going strong for 11 months. In the past two weeks, difficulty communicating, yesterday, "I need to be alone right now"

I originally posted this on /relationship_advice but I very badly need advice (I am truly not trying to karma whore). So I'm posting here too. I hope that is acceptable.
So, this is going to be a little complicated and very VERY long (about five pages in 12pt font in MS word). If you like stories, I'm a decent writer -- I think -- and I will try to make this engaging and worth your time.
I'm going to refer to 24F as "she", "her", or "24F" when there's another "she" referenced in context. She is Chinese (with excellent english skills), and I am American (with no mandarin skills, and an elementary mastery of spoken/written Japanese). When we met she was a freshly graduated Master's student, doing various internships and entry-level jobs in NYC.

BACKGROUND (LONG but gratifying, I think):
The Beginning:
I met her about a year ago in NYC. We met at a birthday party for mutual friends and found out we live on the same block. We also found out about mutual loves for very eclectic and niche topics (e.g. obscure japanese drama from 15 years ago, etc.), as well as total compatibility for watching film/movies. Here's the tough part. I was moving out of the state within a few weeks, to go back home to live with my family as I had been told that my father's health was declining. Regardless of that, we couldn't help ourselves but to hang out with each other for 6+ hours every day (except for a short weekend trip I had to make). We went on outings together for entire days (going to museums, walking around, getting meals, joking/shittalking about our favorite subjects). Two days before I leave, she expresses her concerns about long distance relationships to a friend who is going through something similar, but she (and I found out later it was purposeful) expresses it in front of me. The day before I leave, we go out with friends, get a little too tipsy, and all head to an EDM concert together. She and I end up not really liking the music too much and head off to a side room to talk. She tells me she has feelings for me, but she doesn't think it will work out because there's too much differences in our lives (she's Chinese, going to have to go back one day, and I'm moving from NYC to California). I tell her the same thing, that I'm hopelessly infatuated with her, and that I'm really worried. We hug and sway drunkenly for 30 minutes to an hour, I'm not sure how long, until the special midnight New Year's Eve event starts. We head out to the main floor to join our friends for the countdown. The clock strikes midnight, and all of our friends who are couples give each other midnight kisses, the single people give hugs and the european style cheek kisses to each other, but when she turns to me, her eyes sparkled in the lasers and lights of the event, and I couldn't help myself, I hug her really snugly, and as I pull back I kiss her forehead for about a second. The next morning we meet up to see each other off, and I hug her tightly and hand her a note I wrote, which basically says, "I've never felt anything like this feeling I have with you, I feel like you're my best friend, but I also think I am in love with you. I know it seems unlikely to work... but if you feel the same way at all, I want to try to make it work somehow." After I leave to drive my car across the country, she calls me and tells me that it's crazy but she wants to try to make it work.
The Early Relationship:
We spend January 2019 constantly videochatting, and talking, and she actually comes out to California to visit me and my family for a weekend. Sensing that we needed more of this, I spend almost the entirety of February with her in NYC at her apartment. In april, she quits her NYC internship, and moves across the country to live in my family's home with me in California. We're inseparable. Spending nearly all hours of the days and nights with each other. Taking weekend and day trips, so I can take her to Disneyland, and show her all of the things I did when I was growing up in California. She meets my parents and my mom and her spend a lot of time together while I'm working. My mom tells me that she approves and feels like "24F" is the daughter she always wished that she had. During her days, she consumes massive amounts of Chinese social media and works on her career (networking, applying for relevant jobs nearby, etc.).
The End of Cohabitation:
In August 2019, we go back to her NYC apartment (which she had rented to someone else from April - July) to spend the last month there before the lease expires. It is bliss. At the end of August, her OPT (student/working visa) will expire, so this is really our last chance to live together for awhile. We do all of our favorite things in NYC, while planning for the future. In the past, she had told me how badly she wanted children, and was also asking me almost monthly when we could get married. I wanted to ensure that we had a near-permanent residential arrangement before any of that, so I always told her, "soon, as soon as we can live together in an apartment that we share". The end of August arrives, and I see her off at the airport.
The Recent Months:
We are constantly chatting on wechat, talking about our days and all of the things she missed about her home city (Shanghai), and she shows me all these things over wechat. It is about this time that she starts telling me how inconvenient all of the trappings of our lives in America are, and tells me about how much better it is in Shanghai. I book a flight to visit her for 2 weeks in September, and I'm off. We spend two blissful weeks, meeting her entire family, and having adventures all over the city. Her family approves of me, and tells her it would be a mistake for her to make me move to Shanghai. They want her to go back to NYC with me to start our lives together. She can't really come back and is itching for a great job (which she had a very hard time finding while she was living with me in California and before in NYC, because of all the foreigner sponsorship issues). In October, we spend more time on WeChat, planning when and where we get married, and her begging me to move to Shanghai, so she doesn't have to keep living with her parents (duh, parents are quite annoying if you move back after being gone for so long). I tell her that I really want to, but I need to get approval from my company to let me work there, or I need to get a Chinese work Visa and find a job there (with me knowing virtually no mandarin (at this time)). Meanwhile, she is actively searching for a job in Shanghai, and actually receiving about 5 offers a week that are relevant to her studies.

Where the Trouble Starts:
In October, nearly every day, she tells me things like, "baby I love you more and more every day", and "I can't wait to spend the rest of our lives together". My birthday comes and goes, we have a very long call that day and talk about our plans and dreams for the near future. Her mother sends me birthday wishes over wechat, and we talk amicably (using google translate). Towards the end of the month, she tells me she wants to spend Thanksgiving week with my family. I get so excited to see her again, I tell her I'm going to pay for her flight out here since her family was so accommodating of me when I went to Shanghai (they paid for my hotel...). I book the tickets for her to come Friday before thanksgiving, and leaving the Friday right after Thanksgiving. The last week in October, she tells me she found a really exciting job opportunity, and that she wants to take it. I encourage her, and tell her how very proud I am of her. After she takes her job in the first week of November, she starts working quite intense hours (12-14 hour days), and our communication starts to lack a bit. We both make efforts to talk to each other, but it becomes hard when we turn the clocks back here in the US, and they don't in China, which results in me almost never getting to talk to her in the mornings anymore. She tells me how intense her job is but that she loves it. Her best friends in Shanghai are a group of regionally famous gay guys (they have social media attention, and one of them is considered one of the top drag queen performers in Shanghai). She starts hanging out with them more and more these days, and I get a lot of photos of all them together, but then one day she starts telling me that she doesn't feel very attractive anymore, especially hanging around all of these beautiful guys who do makeup better than she does. She also tells me that her time in the U.S. gave her a little bit of a tan, and she doesn't fit with beauty standards in Asia anymore. I tell her that I think their beauty standards are silly and that she's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen in my life. The next week, she starts talking to me even less. But our conversations are still similar ("baby I miss you so much, please move to shanghai soon, I really need you here with me").
At this point, I realize that I need to make moves. My company actually sees a valid reason for sending me to China, and tell me if I can close a specific deal, that I can move there. I see this as a fantastic piece of news to tell her and decide to wait until Thanksgiving to tell her that I can finally move to be with her. I end up closing the deal a week later, and start doing about 5 hours of mandarin lessons a day.
One day, she calls me in the morning, and I'm excited to get to talk to her, as we haven't been able to talk on the phone much lately. It's a wechat video call. I answer the phone, half-naked in bed, and she's at a bar, and says, "Look who came to Shanghai and I get to visit with!!" She puts the phone in the face of one of my neighbors from NYC, who I know had a crush on her and asked her out (she declined before, explaining that she and I were dating). I am instantly disappointed that she has shown my neighbor that had a crush on her my half naked body in bed, and that it's too loud for us to have a conversation. She brings the phone back to her face, and says, "Baby... what's wrong? Are you mad??". I don't want to cause a scene or distress her evening, getting to see a friend from America, and I try to shake it off and say, "Oh no I'm fine, I just really miss you, and I'm a bit depressed here in California." She tells me, "No... you are upset, I know that face anywhere. What's wrong? Seriously?" I tell her that we should talk later, and she says, "Okay, love you, bye." About an hour later, she messages me and says, "Why did you have to do that? I was having such a great time finally for the first time in awhile, and you upset me by being so upset." I explained again to her that I just wanted to have a conversation with her, and I missed our normal daily calls. After that, we go back to our regular texting every day, getting on the phone maybe once every three days.
At this time, in the second week of November, she says something that starts to make me feel a bit anxious and weird. She tells me again about how she's not feeling attractive and she misses the days in NYC where she would have 3-5 guys every day asking for her number. She also tells me a story about how a guy on the NYC subway was drawing her in secret one day. A few days later, she asks me if I would be willing to change her flight from San Francisco to NYC because she wants to spend the weekend there before joining me and my family in SF. I tell her that I guess it would be fine, but I'm asking all these questions like, "are you sure??", "Why do you want to do that?", "Where will you stay?" Her response is basically that she wants to spend some alone time wandering and being herself while she has this secured week of vacation from this job that she only just started within the month. At last, I tell her why I'm upset. I bring up the things she mentioned about herself not feeling attractive, missing getting hit on by guys in NYC, and that I'm really upset that we don't get to spend any time at all together, and her excuse for wanting to go to NYC is that she needs to be alone/without me? We spend entire months without each other. She basically doesn't respond to my concerns and just tells me that she really needs to do this for her mental health. I don't disagree with her, and I just want her to be happy, so I help her change the flight.
In mid-November, I continue to express my concerns to her, and ask if we can talk about everything, because I want to help her through the trouble she's having. Most of this is ignored, except that she tells me "I love you baby, really", on the 12th. I respond with "Don't break my heart again for a long time okay?" I hear nothing. "Are you awake?", "I know you're tired...but I need you to try to talk to me more." "Good night...." During the night, I tell her, "I kept waking up like 20 times to check my phone to see if you said anything else...".
That day, I myself, actually get the opportunity to go to NYC with a couple friends for the 13th-17th. I post a lot of stories on Instagram of my travelings around the city, and I see that she watches all of them, almost religiously. Then after 4 days of complete radio silence from her, she says out of nowhere, "baby". Four hours later she asks, "are you back in California"? I tell her that I was supposed to go to Boston, but that I'm feeling really ill (really it's constant anxiety over wtf is going on), and that I'm flying home the next day (Sunday). On Sunday she tells me when she's going to land in SF (she booked another ticket from NYC to SF). I tell her how hard the past couple weeks have been, and how I can't wait to see her, and that I've had so much anxiety. She doesn't respond to any of my texts except asking why I'm having anxiety. I repeat again, all of the concerns I've been telling her over the past two weeks, and she says nothing. When I get back to California, I tell her I've landed, and I go to sleep. Yesterday, Monday, when she wakes up in China (it's Tuesday morning for her), she sends me two screenshots of notes she wrote for me. They say the following:
It's just been really busy lately. I love my job -- everyone at the office is extremely talented and smart; the work itself is interesting, not really traditional PR but more like consulting work. I feel like I need to learn a lot every single day to keep up with them. It's really time and energy consuming.
Since I got back to Shanghai, nothing is the same. Friends, environment, and even the way I live with my parents. To explore myself more, I finally realized that I stepped into a new phase of life. I'm eager to learn what I genuinely have passion for and who I will actually become. The unknown journey makes me, a person who loves spoilers, really uncomfortable. But deep down I know, it's a slow process, you can't speed up and, of course, there are no spoilers in life.
I appreciate how much you love me and the time we spent together. You told me that you reached a point in life that you are sure I am the person who you are willing to spend the rest of your life with. But I'm really not sure. I'm not ghosting you but just busy with life and knowing it's so hard to start the conversation like this.
At this moment, I have a ton of problems, but gradually, I am accepting the fact that everyone has problems and we have to live with it. I want to solve these problems by myself, mostly myself. In this phase, I really can't spare myself to handle a long distance relationship. I know you are not happy in California. It's cruel, but I don't think I can make it any better. A good relationship is the trophy of two strong minds, definitely not two sad people trying to warm each other up. We both have a lot of problems at this point. The only thing I want to do now is learn myself, to grow, to become stronger, to fix the problems, to become the person I will love. And I know the self growth thing I can only achieve by myself.
I love you, and I know you love me too. But what I've learned from the past, probably the only thing I've learned, is to love myself more.
One of my notes for you to realize after reading her note, is that the only time I have ever expressed any problems in my life without her, it has simply been that I am sad that I cannot be with her, and that I'm super jealous about her exciting life in Shanghai. I'm a very strong person, and I have a great job, my father is recovering well, nothing is wrong in my life except that I am furiously working to move out to Shanghai to be with her.
I ask her if she's telling me that we're over (all of the sudden), if we can just see how things work out. I tell her that I was trying to move to shanghai and that I have things coming together already. She says, "I want to be with myself first". I say, "Okay, I can let you do that, but can you please promise me that you'll let me try to make it work for us?"
She says, "There are spaces for friends now but definitely not for an intimate relationship." I ask, "What about in the long run?"
"I can't tell dude.. I can't see the future for myself yet. Everything has just started for me."
"I know but.... you wanted to get married like literally a month ago! I know everything has changed, but can you deny that the relationship we had was great? I'm trying to move across the world for you, I'm happy to let you try exploring and being yourself, but... I thought you were happy when we were together"
"It's happy, but not exciting"
We go back and forth for a bit, with her giving me one liners, and she basically ends up saying, she is planning on moving somewhere else some time, I shouldn't move to china for her cause it's too much pressure on the other person, and that she acknowledges what I'm saying except that, "it's different timing in life for us".
That was the last thing she said to me yesterday. I have continued to try to talk to her, but I have received no response.

FINALLY: What is my question?
EDIT: I want to iterate that this relationship is the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I've been in 5 relationships that lasted longer than a year, two of which lasted longer than 2 years. This is the most emotion and love I've ever felt for anyone I've dated. These past two weeks have been agonizing, and I'm hoping she's just going through a phase... but part of me thinks that maybe something really did happen, and she just decided that it's over. Out of nowhere.
My question... the advice I'm asking for is:
Have you ever been in a situation like this? The relationship is going extremely well. You are doing fine with a lot of long distance in between getting to be together, and then just suddenly in the course of two weeks, it goes from, "Let's get married, please move here asap" to "I need to love myself, and I don't have the energy for you, we're not at the same place in life". What happened in that situation? How did you fix it? What happened if things didn't go well? What if anything did you or they do to make things worse/better?
I would also really really really welcome any general advice you could give me. Maybe she is just stressed from this sudden life transformation? Going back to your home only to be rejected by those who stayed there, starting a new high stress job for the first time in your life? Making rash decisions before you've even settled down in your job. I don't think she's cheating on me, I think she's just making a huge life decision because she's really engaged with her job, and she had made up her mind that I'll never go out to Shanghai. Or maybe she misses her old single-life self? She was a fierce NYC kwane who wore crazy runway style outfits.
I want to tell her that she's being rash, and that this whole thing has been extremely unfair to me. I just don't know how to do it so that the chances of us getting back together one day are materially possible.
I'll talk in the comments below about what I'm thinking of saying when she finally does come to SF next week. By the way, she is NOT going to be staying with my family... she's staying with a friend up in the city.

TL;DR:
Girlfriend and I have had a very successful but geographically-challenging relationship thus far. By the last half, we were on the same page about marriage, children, we had met each other's families on opposite sides of the world. Suddenly in the course of the past two weeks, she tells me she can't be in an intimate relationship, and that she has no energy for anything other than her new job and developing herself. I get the chance to meet her in person one last time next week. What can I do?! More questions advice request above in "FINALLY: What is my question?" bold section.
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2019.11.20 01:35 RaidenIsCool Epic Tale Inside: Me (28M) and my girlfriend (24F), Going strong for 11 months. In the past two weeks, difficulty communicating, yesterday, "I need to be alone right now"

So, this is going to be a little complicated and very VERY long (about five pages in 12pt font in MS word). If you like stories, I'm a decent writer -- I think -- and I will try to make this engaging and worth your time.
I'm going to refer to 24F as "she", "her", or "24F" when there's another "she" referenced in context. She is Chinese (with excellent english skills), and I am American (with no mandarin skills, and an elementary mastery of spoken/written Japanese). When we met she was a freshly graduated Master's student, doing various internships and entry-level jobs in NYC.

BACKGROUND (LONG but gratifying, I think):
The Beginning:
I met her about a year ago in NYC. We met at a birthday party for mutual friends and found out we live on the same block. We also found out about mutual loves for very eclectic and niche topics (e.g. obscure japanese drama from 15 years ago, etc.), as well as total compatibility for watching film/movies. Here's the tough part. I was moving out of the state within a few weeks, to go back home to live with my family as I had been told that my father's health was declining. Regardless of that, we couldn't help ourselves but to hang out with each other for 6+ hours every day (except for a short weekend trip I had to make). We went on outings together for entire days (going to museums, walking around, getting meals, joking/shittalking about our favorite subjects). Two days before I leave, she expresses her concerns about long distance relationships to a friend who is going through something similar, but she (and I found out later it was purposeful) expresses it in front of me. The day before I leave, we go out with friends, get a little too tipsy, and all head to an EDM concert together. She and I end up not really liking the music too much and head off to a side room to talk. She tells me she has feelings for me, but she doesn't think it will work out because there's too much differences in our lives (she's Chinese, going to have to go back one day, and I'm moving from NYC to California). I tell her the same thing, that I'm hopelessly infatuated with her, and that I'm really worried. We hug and sway drunkenly for 30 minutes to an hour, I'm not sure how long, until the special midnight New Year's Eve event starts. We head out to the main floor to join our friends for the countdown. The clock strikes midnight, and all of our friends who are couples give each other midnight kisses, the single people give hugs and the european style cheek kisses to each other, but when she turns to me, her eyes sparkled in the lasers and lights of the event, and I couldn't help myself, I hug her really snugly, and as I pull back I kiss her forehead for about a second. The next morning we meet up to see each other off, and I hug her tightly and hand her a note I wrote, which basically says, "I've never felt anything like this feeling I have with you, I feel like you're my best friend, but I also think I am in love with you. I know it seems unlikely to work... but if you feel the same way at all, I want to try to make it work somehow." After I leave to drive my car across the country, she calls me and tells me that it's crazy but she wants to try to make it work.
The Early Relationship:
We spend January 2019 constantly videochatting, and talking, and she actually comes out to California to visit me and my family for a weekend. Sensing that we needed more of this, I spend almost the entirety of February with her in NYC at her apartment. In april, she quits her NYC internship, and moves across the country to live in my family's home with me in California. We're inseparable. Spending nearly all hours of the days and nights with each other. Taking weekend and day trips, so I can take her to Disneyland, and show her all of the things I did when I was growing up in California. She meets my parents and my mom and her spend a lot of time together while I'm working. My mom tells me that she approves and feels like "24F" is the daughter she always wished that she had. During her days, she consumes massive amounts of Chinese social media and works on her career (networking, applying for relevant jobs nearby, etc.).
The End of Cohabitation:
In August 2019, we go back to her NYC apartment (which she had rented to someone else from April - July) to spend the last month there before the lease expires. It is bliss. At the end of August, her OPT (student/working visa) will expire, so this is really our last chance to live together for awhile. We do all of our favorite things in NYC, while planning for the future. In the past, she had told me how badly she wanted children, and was also asking me almost monthly when we could get married. I wanted to ensure that we had a near-permanent residential arrangement before any of that, so I always told her, "soon, as soon as we can live together in an apartment that we share". The end of August arrives, and I see her off at the airport.
The Recent Months:
We are constantly chatting on wechat, talking about our days and all of the things she missed about her home city (Shanghai), and she shows me all these things over wechat. It is about this time that she starts telling me how inconvenient all of the trappings of our lives in America are, and tells me about how much better it is in Shanghai. I book a flight to visit her for 2 weeks in September, and I'm off. We spend two blissful weeks, meeting her entire family, and having adventures all over the city. Her family approves of me, and tells her it would be a mistake for her to make me move to Shanghai. They want her to go back to NYC with me to start our lives together. She can't really come back and is itching for a great job (which she had a very hard time finding while she was living with me in California and before in NYC, because of all the foreigner sponsorship issues). In October, we spend more time on WeChat, planning when and where we get married, and her begging me to move to Shanghai, so she doesn't have to keep living with her parents (duh, parents are quite annoying if you move back after being gone for so long). I tell her that I really want to, but I need to get approval from my company to let me work there, or I need to get a Chinese work Visa and find a job there (with me knowing virtually no mandarin (at this time)). Meanwhile, she is actively searching for a job in Shanghai, and actually receiving about 5 offers a week that are relevant to her studies.

Where the Trouble Starts:
In October, nearly every day, she tells me things like, "baby I love you more and more every day", and "I can't wait to spend the rest of our lives together". My birthday comes and goes, we have a very long call that day and talk about our plans and dreams for the near future. Her mother sends me birthday wishes over wechat, and we talk amicably (using google translate). Towards the end of the month, she tells me she wants to spend Thanksgiving week with my family. I get so excited to see her again, I tell her I'm going to pay for her flight out here since her family was so accommodating of me when I went to Shanghai (they paid for my hotel...). I book the tickets for her to come Friday before thanksgiving, and leaving the Friday right after Thanksgiving. The last week in October, she tells me she found a really exciting job opportunity, and that she wants to take it. I encourage her, and tell her how very proud I am of her. After she takes her job in the first week of November, she starts working quite intense hours (12-14 hour days), and our communication starts to lack a bit. We both make efforts to talk to each other, but it becomes hard when we turn the clocks back here in the US, and they don't in China, which results in me almost never getting to talk to her in the mornings anymore. She tells me how intense her job is but that she loves it. Her best friends in Shanghai are a group of regionally famous gay guys (they have social media attention, and one of them is considered one of the top drag queen performers in Shanghai). She starts hanging out with them more and more these days, and I get a lot of photos of all them together, but then one day she starts telling me that she doesn't feel very attractive anymore, especially hanging around all of these beautiful guys who do makeup better than she does. She also tells me that her time in the U.S. gave her a little bit of a tan, and she doesn't fit with beauty standards in Asia anymore. I tell her that I think their beauty standards are silly and that she's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen in my life. The next week, she starts talking to me even less. But our conversations are still similar ("baby I miss you so much, please move to shanghai soon, I really need you here with me").
At this point, I realize that I need to make moves. My company actually sees a valid reason for sending me to China, and tell me if I can close a specific deal, that I can move there. I see this as a fantastic piece of news to tell her and decide to wait until Thanksgiving to tell her that I can finally move to be with her. I end up closing the deal a week later, and start doing about 5 hours of mandarin lessons a day.
One day, she calls me in the morning, and I'm excited to get to talk to her, as we haven't been able to talk on the phone much lately. It's a wechat video call. I answer the phone, half-naked in bed, and she's at a bar, and says, "Look who came to Shanghai and I get to visit with!!" She puts the phone in the face of one of my neighbors from NYC, who I know had a crush on her and asked her out (she declined before, explaining that she and I were dating). I am instantly disappointed that she has shown my neighbor that had a crush on her my half naked body in bed, and that it's too loud for us to have a conversation. She brings the phone back to her face, and says, "Baby... what's wrong? Are you mad??". I don't want to cause a scene or distress her evening, getting to see a friend from America, and I try to shake it off and say, "Oh no I'm fine, I just really miss you, and I'm a bit depressed here in California." She tells me, "No... you are upset, I know that face anywhere. What's wrong? Seriously?" I tell her that we should talk later, and she says, "Okay, love you, bye." About an hour later, she messages me and says, "Why did you have to do that? I was having such a great time finally for the first time in awhile, and you upset me by being so upset." I explained again to her that I just wanted to have a conversation with her, and I missed our normal daily calls. After that, we go back to our regular texting every day, getting on the phone maybe once every three days.
At this time, in the second week of November, she says something that starts to make me feel a bit anxious and weird. She tells me again about how she's not feeling attractive and she misses the days in NYC where she would have 3-5 guys every day asking for her number. She also tells me a story about how a guy on the NYC subway was drawing her in secret one day. A few days later, she asks me if I would be willing to change her flight from San Francisco to NYC because she wants to spend the weekend there before joining me and my family in SF. I tell her that I guess it would be fine, but I'm asking all these questions like, "are you sure??", "Why do you want to do that?", "Where will you stay?" Her response is basically that she wants to spend some alone time wandering and being herself while she has this secured week of vacation from this job that she only just started within the month. At last, I tell her why I'm upset. I bring up the things she mentioned about herself not feeling attractive, missing getting hit on by guys in NYC, and that I'm really upset that we don't get to spend any time at all together, and her excuse for wanting to go to NYC is that she needs to be alone/without me? We spend entire months without each other. She basically doesn't respond to my concerns and just tells me that she really needs to do this for her mental health. I don't disagree with her, and I just want her to be happy, so I help her change the flight.
In mid-November, I continue to express my concerns to her, and ask if we can talk about everything, because I want to help her through the trouble she's having. Most of this is ignored, except that she tells me "I love you baby, really", on the 12th. I respond with "Don't break my heart again for a long time okay?" I hear nothing. "Are you awake?", "I know you're tired...but I need you to try to talk to me more." "Good night...." During the night, I tell her, "I kept waking up like 20 times to check my phone to see if you said anything else...".
That day, I myself, actually get the opportunity to go to NYC with a couple friends for the 13th-17th. I post a lot of stories on Instagram of my travelings around the city, and I see that she watches all of them, almost religiously. Then after 4 days of complete radio silence from her, she says out of nowhere, "baby". Four hours later she asks, "are you back in California"? I tell her that I was supposed to go to Boston, but that I'm feeling really ill (really it's constant anxiety over wtf is going on), and that I'm flying home the next day (Sunday). On Sunday she tells me when she's going to land in SF (she booked another ticket from NYC to SF). I tell her how hard the past couple weeks have been, and how I can't wait to see her, and that I've had so much anxiety. She doesn't respond to any of my texts except asking why I'm having anxiety. I repeat again, all of the concerns I've been telling her over the past two weeks, and she says nothing. When I get back to California, I tell her I've landed, and I go to sleep. Yesterday, Monday, when she wakes up in China (it's Tuesday morning for her), she sends me two screenshots of notes she wrote for me. They say the following:
It's just been really busy lately. I love my job -- everyone at the office is extremely talented and smart; the work itself is interesting, not really traditional PR but more like consulting work. I feel like I need to learn a lot every single day to keep up with them. It's really time and energy consuming.
Since I got back to Shanghai, nothing is the same. Friends, environment, and even the way I live with my parents. To explore myself more, I finally realized that I stepped into a new phase of life. I'm eager to learn what I genuinely have passion for and who I will actually become. The unknown journey makes me, a person who loves spoilers, really uncomfortable. But deep down I know, it's a slow process, you can't speed up and, of course, there are no spoilers in life.
I appreciate how much you love me and the time we spent together. You told me that you reached a point in life that you are sure I am the person who you are willing to spend the rest of your life with. But I'm really not sure. I'm not ghosting you but just busy with life and knowing it's so hard to start the conversation like this.
At this moment, I have a ton of problems, but gradually, I am accepting the fact that everyone has problems and we have to live with it. I want to solve these problems by myself, mostly myself. In this phase, I really can't spare myself to handle a long distance relationship. I know you are not happy in California. It's cruel, but I don't think I can make it any better. A good relationship is the trophy of two strong minds, definitely not two sad people trying to warm each other up. We both have a lot of problems at this point. The only thing I want to do now is learn myself, to grow, to become stronger, to fix the problems, to become the person I will love. And I know the self growth thing I can only achieve by myself.
I love you, and I know you love me too. But what I've learned from the past, probably the only thing I've learned, is to love myself more.
One of my notes for you to realize after reading her note, is that the only time I have ever expressed any problems in my life without her, it has simply been that I am sad that I cannot be with her, and that I'm super jealous about her exciting life in Shanghai. I'm a very strong person, and I have a great job, my father is recovering well, nothing is wrong in my life except that I am furiously working to move out to Shanghai to be with her.
I ask her if she's telling me that we're over (all of the sudden), if we can just see how things work out. I tell her that I was trying to move to shanghai and that I have things coming together already. She says, "I want to be with myself first". I say, "Okay, I can let you do that, but can you please promise me that you'll let me try to make it work for us?"
She says, "There are spaces for friends now but definitely not for an intimate relationship." I ask, "What about in the long run?"
"I can't tell dude.. I can't see the future for myself yet. Everything has just started for me."
"I know but.... you wanted to get married like literally a month ago! I know everything has changed, but can you deny that the relationship we had was great? I'm trying to move across the world for you, I'm happy to let you try exploring and being yourself, but... I thought you were happy when we were together"
"It's happy, but not exciting"
We go back and forth for a bit, with her giving me one liners, and she basically ends up saying, she is planning on moving somewhere else some time, I shouldn't move to china for her cause it's too much pressure on the other person, and that she acknowledges what I'm saying except that, "it's different timing in life for us".
That was the last thing she said to me yesterday. I have continued to try to talk to her, but I have received no response.

FINALLY: What is my question?
EDIT: I want to iterate that this relationship is the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I've been in 5 relationships that lasted longer than a year, two of which lasted longer than 2 years. This is the most emotion and love I've ever felt for anyone I've dated. These past two weeks have been agonizing, and I'm hoping she's just going through a phase... but part of me thinks that maybe something really did happen, and she just decided that it's over. Out of nowhere.
My question... the advice I'm asking for is:
Have you ever been in a situation like this? The relationship is going extremely well. You are doing fine with a lot of long distance in between getting to be together, and then just suddenly in the course of two weeks, it goes from, "Let's get married, please move here asap" to "I need to love myself, and I don't have the energy for you, we're not at the same place in life". What happened in that situation? How did you fix it? What happened if things didn't go well? What if anything did you or they do to make things worse/better?
I would also really really really welcome any general advice you could give me. Maybe she is just stressed from this sudden life transformation? Going back to your home only to be rejected by those who stayed there, starting a new high stress job for the first time in your life? Making rash decisions before you've even settled down in your job. I don't think she's cheating on me, I think she's just making a huge life decision because she's really engaged with her job, and she had made up her mind that I'll never go out to Shanghai. Or maybe she misses her old single-life self? She was a fierce NYC kwane who wore crazy runway style outfits.
I want to tell her that she's being rash, and that this whole thing has been extremely unfair to me. I just don't know how to do it so that the chances of us getting back together one day are materially possible.
I'll talk in the comments below about what I'm thinking of saying when she finally does come to SF next week. By the way, she is NOT going to be staying with my family... she's staying with a friend up in the city.

TL;DR:
Girlfriend and I have had a very successful but geographically-challenging relationship thus far. By the last half, we were on the same page about marriage, children, we had met each other's families on opposite sides of the world. Suddenly in the course of the past two weeks, she tells me she can't be in an intimate relationship, and that she has no energy for anything other than her new job and developing herself. I get the chance to meet her in person one last time next week. What can I do?! More questions advice request above in "FINALLY: What is my question?" bold section.
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2019.01.22 07:25 iminterestingplease Part 41.

It's slowed down a little bit. Here's my next part.
6529.(Famous Landmark name change.)Grand Central Station/Grand Central Terminal
https://www.grandcentralterminal.com
6530.(Real Life Quote change.)"Read my lips, no more taxes."/"Read my lips, no new taxes."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_my_lips:_no_new_taxes
6531.(New species.)Have you heard of the Brahmin moth?
https://www.reddit.com/Retconned/comments/aihembrahmin_moth/
6532.(New species.)Have you heard of the Stellar's sea eagle?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steller's_sea_eagle
6533.(New species.)Have you heard of the snake caterpillar?
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/04/hawk-moth-caterpillar-snake-untamed-spd/
6534.(Famous Landmark name change.)Madison Square Gardens/Madison Square Garden
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Square_Garden
6535.(Fictional Character name change.)Popeye The Sailor Man/Popeye The Sailor
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye
6536.(Celebrity death date change.)Do you remember David Carradine dying earlier or later than June 3, 2009 or still being alive?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carradine
6537.(Fictional Item appearance change.)Do you remember The Dukes Of Hazzard car always being flame red instead of orange?(Anything else off?)(Boss Hog/Boss Hogg)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Lee_(car)
6538.(Famous Karate Instructor name change.)Tiger Schuman/Tiger Schulmann(Other spellings?)(Other spellings of CiCi's Pizza?)(Music videos and videos in general that disappear or pop up.)(Words that spell check doesn't recognize.)(Being able to feel music.)(Cars that you didn't have to back out of or in tight spaces manually.)(Oh ye have(hath)little Faith/Oh ye of little Faith)(Multiple things related to The NeverEnding Story that were made afterward.)(All the new alcohol types.)(Thomas Edison being depicted as deaf.)(Do you remember Masazo Nonaka dying earlier than January 20, 2019?)(Weird looking moths.)(Caterpillar with weird shaoed head.)(Ewok-like monkeys that play instruments.)(Have any lyrics to More Than A Feeling changed?)(In the first episode of The Dukes Of Hazzard, the car was painted black.)(Lots of rainbow and weird looking pigeons and starlings.)(Have any of the lyrics in Don't Dream It's Over by Crowded House changed?)(Other spellings of Rothschild?)(Weird looking crickets with weird heads.)(The Periodic Table Of Elements keeps changing.)(Lots of weird new emojis including a monocle one.)(Robinson Road/Robison Road and other road name changes.)(Purple oranges?)(Simple Green purpose cleaner letters are now modernized, the Es are now open and the letters are touching.)(Ortho insect killer T and H are connected and the other letters in the words below are in an off font like the R.)(Garden Tech Seven/Garden Tech Sevin and letters are connected and G in Garden now has leaf in it.)(Haveaheart/Havahart cage trap and letters are connected and in words below it.)(Other spellings?)(Anything else off?)(RoundUp weed and grass killer letters are overlapping.)(Penray windshield de-icer letters are cut and broken.)(Nextgrill/Nexgrill letters are cut, broken and touching.)(Embers lighter fluid letters are touching.)(Razor-Back shovel letters are connected, cut and broken.)(AllFit letters are connected and stretched out.)(Cub Cadet bagger letters are connected and broken.)(Toro letters are connected.)(HomeLight/HomeLite letters are connected and broken.)(Air Care letters are cut and broken.)(Dempsy/Dempsey letters are connected and weird.)(Rid-X logo has connected letters.)(BECU logo has connected and weird letters.)(Octapus/Octopus)(All the Tesla towers appearing everywhere.)(All Duraflame products have weird or off logos.)(Dura Heat logo has connected letters.)(Do you remember Asda buying Sainsbury's instead of Asda and Walmart being in financial trouble?)(Were the letters in Asda not touching?)(Sansbury's/Sainsbury's)(Anything else off?)(Brother ink cartridge logo has modernized font letters and messed up T.)(Chickenpox being more deadly.)(Lots of Thyroid related changes.)(Fisher & Pykel/Fisher & Paykel)(Lots of changes to the James Dean crash.)(Lily Tomlin playing in Grace And Frankie.)(Identity Theft/Identity Thief movie)(Lincoln College Of Technology ads have connected letters.)(B&M racing logo has connected letters and off letters and off &.)(Certain tax problem solver company commercials have modernized letters.)(More Shirley Temple history changes.)(More weird new clouds.)(The Unabomber was an MK Ultra victim.)(Banjo Kazooie/Banjo-Kazooie)(More anatomy changes.)(Xarelto logo changed.)(Lots of new video games with connected letters, broken letters and modernized fonts.)(Dogs over 6 and 7 feet tall.)(Rainbow seahorses and really weird looking ones now exist.)(Lots of lyric changes to Da Ya Think I'm Sexy by Rod Stewart.)(Jersy/Jersey)(New Jersy/New Jersey)(SpecteSpectre movie)(Clint Dempsy/Clint Dempsey)(SportCenteSportsCenter)(Did the Pringles man wear a hat?)(Frost earthquames now exist.)(Flying platforms from the 1950's.)(Large eyes that used to be used in classrooms.)(Robot master golf trainer in the 1920's.)(Water bicycles in the 1920's.)( Air-powered skull massaging helmet.)(Electrical wheel called Dynasphere.)(Firefighting suits designed for rescuing airmen trapped in planes in the 1940's.)(Mechanical hands that help shave a man's beard in the 1950's.)(Similar invention that shaved a man's beard and had human bones in it.)(Street sweeping machine in the 1950's.)(Black and white camouflage used by soldiers while climbed trees in WW1.)(Mind machine used for measuring brain activity.)(A shockproof perm machine powered by electricity.)(Weird hair dryers in the 1930's.)(Weird old mind reading machines.)(Goodyear brand illuminated tires.)(Home tanning lamp with eye protecting glasses in the 1920's.)(Machine used for mouth x-raying in the 1920's.)(Do you remember Thums Up soda not existing?)(Tons of new logo changes.)(GriffindoGryffindor)(Other spellings?)(People used to dream in black and white?)(The Simpsons in the 1980's?)(Colored photos from the Great Depression.)(Does Weren't seem off to you?)(Feeling Alright/Feelin' Alright)(Any lyrics off?)(Any of their logos off?)(Delight/Deee-Lite musical group)(Any of their logos off?)(Cuddle Duds/Cuddl Duds)(Gladesville/Gladeville gym)(Lychee fruit?)(Nissan Ultima/Nissan Altima)(Does the logo look off?)(Sea World/SeaWorld)(Do any of the logos look off?)(Brand Power logo has connected.)(Royal applesauce logo has connected and off letters.)(Rock This Way logo has modernized letters.)(Ice crop circles?)(Door carved into mountain.)(Area 51 in Roswell, New Mexico or not?)(Blue glowing shrimp and other things.)(Mata mata turtles now exist.)(Duck keeps dog warm during freezing cold.)(Red bearded vultures now exist.)(Lots of giant tree stumps all over the place and all the things that may or may not have been giant trees before.)(Albino honeybees now exist.)(Moonraker doesn't show Christ The Redeemer.)(Issa logo has modernized letters.)(Ronon now does the RoboCop gun thing.)(Stone Mountain now exists.)(Georgia Guidestones now exist.)(Guy who invented Ice Bucket Challenge now died from ALS instead of a fall.)(Demolition Derby/Destruction Derby video game)(Does the logo look off?)(2 new maps in COD Modern Warfare?)(The Bible doesn't state whether there were more or less than 3 wise men or gifts and it doesn't state whether they went to see him right after he was born or not.)(Anything else off?)(Molakai/Molokai)(Other spellings?)(More weird squirrels.)(Cucumber lemons now exist.)(ForresteForester)(Ferrero Rocher logo and pronunciation have changed.)(Question mark and exclamation point symbol merged together is now a thing.)(Lots of logo changes.)(Snake massages now exist.)(Forrest Gump mom quote keeps changing.)(Goofy is now a cow.)(Fish remembering shapes and other things.)(Mysterious islands popping up.)(Snowy owl and raven interacting with each other.)(Steel spring tire in Germany in 1917.)(Prostpone/Postpone)(Costa coffee logo has changed.)(Lots of old game logos have changed.)(Dying all hair a unicorn color.)(Dunkin' apostrophe is different color than rest of name.)(Black peppers now exist.)(This is library hear what you want to hear.)(Many doors carved into natural formations.)(Have you heard of Laurie McDonald in the Mandela Effect community?)(Do you rememer Jamie's Got A Gun?)(Was Malcolm never an acceptable spelling of Malcom?)(White people not being the first slave owners.)(Black people owning slaves.)(American black people not being African?)(Anything else off?)(Something Christopher Columbus wrote about Native Americans that is weird.)(Goat with demon face?)(Menstruation and small penis emojis.)(Klarna logo and commercial font is off.)(StubHub logo is off.)(Ridiculousness hashtag fonts are off.)(Pigs now eat humans.)(Cadnium/Cadmium)(Julius Irving/Julius Erving)("I got a headache this big and it's screaming for Excedrin."/"I got a headache this big and it's got Excedrin written all over it.")(Anything else?)(Press On Nails/Press. On Nails)(Ben Gay/Ben. Gay)(Miracle EaMiracle. Ear)(Tyco has connected letters.)(McDonald's M changed again.)(Ghostbusters/Ghostbusters: Answer The Call)(All DeVry logos have changed.)(Tiger logo has changed.)(Milton Bradley logo has changed.)(The Book logo has changed.)(Tupac marriage story keeps changing.)(Ghost apple phenomenon.)(John Astin is now alive.)(Ericofon?)(Saturday Night Fever logo has modernized letters.)(Forty Six & Too/Forty Six & Two)(Other names?)(Kay Jewelers(Kay?)logo letters keep changing.)(Jared(Jarod or Jarrod and were those the only acceptable spellings?)logo letters keep changing.)(Mimic octopuses now exist.)(Symbicort logos have connected letters and numbers.)(London's Calling/London Calling)(Any of their logos off?)(Anything else off?)(Unicorn poop scented candles?)(Half male and half female animals.)(Famous Peru movie quote has changed.)(Woody's body spray logo changed.)(Tina's burritos logo changed.)(Ed McMahon worked with American Family Publishers.)(Glittery dog scrotums?)(Man sues parents because he was born?)(Carhardt/Carhartt)(Other spellings?)(Rikki Tikki Tavi/Rikki-Tikki-Tavi)(Other names?)(Anything else off?)(Were video stores very rare when they were a thing?)(Daniel Ricardo/Daniel Ricciardo)(Other spellings?)(James DeFranco/James Franco)(Other spellings?)(Was Timothy Leary a serial killer?)("You could do so much better."/"She could do so much better.")(Was the latter never said?)(Other lyrics?)(Do any of her logos look off?)(Didn't Elvis Presley say "Thank you. Thank you very much." more often and with more emphasis in his voice?)(Have the lyrics in One by Metallica changed?)(Lots of new logo changes.)(Lots of movie name changes.)(Sandbox trees now exist.)(Black squirrels now exist.)(Linda Ronstadt is now alive.)(Six Of Nine/Seven Of Nine)(Anything else off?)(Andrew Jackson wasn't technically an official US President.)(SirusXM/SiriusXM)(Capital Records/Capitol Records)(Do you remember William Christopher dying earlier or later than December 31, 2016 or still being alive?)(Do you remember John Amos dying a while ago?)(Eye drops that dissolve cataracts.)(Bree Larson/Brie Larson)(Was Brie never an acceptable spelling of Bree?)(Today And Every Day/Today And Ev'ry Day)(Humans being frozen and brought back to life.)(MediFacts logo has off letters.)(Hotpoint logo has connected letters.)(Teal McDonald's M in Sedona.)(Butterfly with 89 pattern in its wings.)(LasikPlus logo has connected letters.)(Abbot/Abbott(Other spellings?)(Is the logo off?))(Investigation Discovery logos have cut letters.)(Big Lots commercial fonts have off letters.)(Trintellix has off letters.)(Iv'ry Soap/Ivory Soap)(The boy that didn't fall down a well in Lassie is actually named Jeff and now the company man also fell down the well as we know Lassie fell down a well in the show too.)(Is the bench scene with the child with the woman and Forrest Gump different as in is the child older or was it a girl or is the woman different or was there no blanket or baby at all?)(Channum Tatum/Channing Tatum)(Other spellings?)(Have you heard of Captain EO?)(Anything else off?)(Greater sage-grouse now exists.)(Demon stingers now exist.)(1948 future cars.)(Jewel caterpillars now exist.)(Was it Osh Kosh Bogosh or another remembered spelling that hasn't been mentioned?)(Did John McCain's mother pass away?)(Goat gives birth to humanoid pig.)(Did Free Energy not exist or is it off or different now?)(Centrifical force and other things are off.)(The logos for The Jazz Singer are very off.)(Diana Riggs/Diana Rigg)(Other spellings?)(Do you remember Jimmy Buffett dying?)(Chickens now have larger ears, they have ear lobes and they have belly buttons.)(Lots of movie and TV show logos have changed.)(Lawrence OliveLaurence Olivier)(Other spellings?)(Mable Lee is sometimes spelled Mabel Lee.)(Do you remember Chumlee dying a while ago?)(Do you remember The Munstars(The Munsters?)TV shows always black and white and not color?)(Do the Techron logos look off?)(Life Boy/Lifebuoy soap brand)(Other names?)(Do the logos look off?)(Star Fort/Steller Fort/Bastion Fort)(Other names?)(Do any of the MasterChef logos look off?)(Orange icicles are now a thing.)(Have you heard of Bacteria Flagellum?)(Tomarto/Tomato)(Lots of weird sycamore colors.)(Cinderella's hair is now a ginger color and the famous glass slipper has changed.)(Tweedledee and Tweedledum's(Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum?)flags have changed to green.)(Lydia Deats/Lydia Deetz)(Other spellings?)(Do you remember WW1 and WW2 going through different years than they do now?)(Do you remember there not being a Titanic movie from the 1950's?)(Is Mona Lisa a man?)(The end of the first Predator movie has changed.)(Did the Black Panther scene in Forrest Gump not exist?)(Fender guitar logo looks different.)(RuPaul's Drag Race logo has changed.)(More airplane changes.)(More remembered spellings of Davey Crockett or Davy Crockett.)(Short Circuit logos have changed.)(Johnny 5 is alive.)(Ulysses S. Grant has a beauty mark on his face.)(Preparation H is a merged logo.)(S&H Green Stamps logo has changed.)(Anything else off?)(Space Mountain has modernized and merged letters.)(Rembradt TimbeRembrand Timber)(Anything else off?)(Eisenhower is smiling on the dime now.)(Buck Rogers logo is merged.)(Delta Force/The Delta Force)(Anything else off?)(Albino honeybees now exist.)(Gold glowing rocks.)(Julia Louis Dreyfuss/Julia Louis-Dreyfus)(Other spellings?)(Black tomatoes now exist.)(First soap opera to air in US called These Are My Children starts in the 1940's.)(Cheaters logo has changed.)(Has the video to Suedehead by Morrissey changed?)(Anything else off?)(Prodigy/The Prodigy)(Anything else off?)(Nova Laboratories from Short Circuit has merged logos.)(Love & Hip Hop logos all have merged letters and other stuff.)(Captain Marvel logo has merged letters.)(Love It Or List It logo has changed.)(Lion's mane mushroom now exists.)(80 million year-old dinosaur-era shark discovered.)(Cabal/Kabal)(Other spellings?)(James Stewart vs. Jimmy Stewart keeps changing.)(M with three humps instead of two?)(Kabalah/Kabbalah)(Other spellings?)(Was there never a 9/11 terrorism prevention team?)(Color film of Charlie Chaplin.)(Lots of electric powered stuff in the early 1900's.)(Amber Alert logos are off.)(Meganeura now exists.)(Return To Oz now existed.)(Larry Flint/Larry Flynt)(Harvey Wienstein/Harvey Weinstein)(Other spellings?)(False zokor now exists.)(Ridiculousness logo keeps changing.)(Gulf Of California now exists.)(Mexicali now exists.)(Dan Rather is now alive.)(Tila Tequila is now alive.)(Pink PantheThe Pink Panther)(Other spellings of Linda Ronstadt?)(Paulie Malinaggi/Paulie Malignaggi)(Other spellings?)(You can pills that make your poop glittery.)(Gary Alman/Gary Allman)(Is his death date off or was he still alive?)(Did the Jussie Smollett incident happen years ago?)(Other remembered spellings of Cadbury that haven't been mentioned?)(Adriana Juarez/Ariadna Juarez)(Perry Ferrell/Perry Farrell)(Other spellings?)(Stephanie KrameStepfanie Kramer)(Other spellings?)(Stefan TayloStepfan Taylor)(Other spellings?)(BetterHelp logo has modernized letters.)(Parks And Recreation quotes keep changing.)(An assassination attempt on George W. Bush in 2001.)(Ruth Westheimer is now alive.)(Cow that looks like its from outer space.)(Extend protein logo keeps changing.)(Jennifer Anniston/Jennifer Aniston)
https://brightside.me/creativity-design/18-old-timey-inventions-that-might-leave-you-scratching-your-head-683060/amp/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KSdU5B_fdVo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Schulmann
6539.(Candy Logo change.)Do you remember the R in Nerds being lowercase?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerds_(candy)
6540.(Famous Speech name change.)I Had A Dream/I Have A Dream
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream
6541.(Fictional Character appearance change.)Do you remember Ginormica from Monsters Vs. Aliens wearing a more blue suit with green or orange or black or solid black or solid blue suit?(Anything else off?)
https://monstersvsaliens.fandom.com/wiki/Ginormica
6542.(Toy name change.)Easy Bake/Easy-Bake(Do any of the logos look off?)
https://easybake.hasbro.com/en-us
6543.(Product Logo change.)Do you remember the T in Chia Pet not having the left side cut off?(Does the I look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chia_Pet
6544.(Company Logo change.)Do you remember the Ms in Qualcomm not being connected?(Qualcom/Qualcomm)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm
6545.(Movie Quote change.)"Stirred, not shaken."/"Shaken, not stirred."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaken,_not_stirred
6546.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember tumors not being able to have hair, teeth and other organs?
https://m.health24.com/Medical/CanceReal-life-story/When-tumours-contain-hair-teeth-and-other-body-organs-20141124
6547.(T.V. Show name change.)Tosh 2.0/Tosh.0
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosh.0
6548.(Video Game name change.)Outrun/OutRun/Out Run(Does the logo look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_Run
6549.(Medicine name change.)Ariprazole/Aripiprazole(Other spellings?)
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-64437-1528/aripiprazole-oral/aripiprazole-disintegrating-tablet-oraldetails
6550.(Rock Band name change.)Prodigy/The Prodigy(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prodigy
6551.(Celebrity death cause change.)Do you remember Phil Hartman killing his wife, then himself instead of his wife killing him?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hartman
6552.(Fictional Character name change.)Alfred E. Newman/Alfred E. Neuman(Other spellings?)
6553.(Spelling change.)Trustle/Trestle(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trestle_bridge
6554.(T.V. Show name change.)Live With Larry King/Larry King Live(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_King_Live
6555.(T.V. Show name change.)Live With Piers Morgan/Piers Morgan Live(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Morgan_Live
6556.(Music Lyrics change.)"All you wanted was somebody who cared."/"All you wanted was somebody who cares."(Anything else off?)(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Michelle-branch-all-you-wanted-lyrics
6557.(Movie name change.)Monty Python And The Quest For The Holy Grail/Monty Python And The Holy Grail
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail
6558.(Famous Actor name change.)Bill Mummy/Bill Mumy(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Mumy
6559.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Family Pantry being a company that was popular that sold edible products like caramels instead of only having one online picture?
https://www.thefamilypantry.com
6560.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember certain animals like cows never having three horns?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/unicorn-cow-stuns-farmer-after-7830943
6561.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember birds not being able to fly upside down?(Anything else off?)
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/can-birds-fly-upside-down/
6562.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Lily Tomlin dying?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Tomlin
6563.(Fictional Character name change.)Igglypuff/Igglybuff
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Igglybuff_(Pokémon)
6564.(Famous Rapper name change.)Tray Dee/Tray Deee/Big Tray Deee(Anything else off?)(Do any of his logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Tray_Deee
6565.(Product name change.)Jif Muffin Mix/Jiffy Muffin Mix
https://site.jiffymix.com
6566.(Movie Quote change.)"Life is like a box of chocolates."/"Life is a box of chocolates."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOnkiQRCUU
6567.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different or not a thing?(Haidinger's Brush, Niagara Falls frozen or not, insects trapped in opal instead of amber, snails and slugs eat paper and mail, skinny pigs, whiffling birds, measles erases immune memory, You've Got Another Thing Coming/You've Got Another Think Coming, one hour long totality of eclipse and blood red moon and not an eclipse every month, finger rafting, film footage of Mark Twain, lots of animals coming back to life after dying, lots of weird caterpillars, foxes are much better pets, Richter Scale is no more, tabker in Mad Max 2, lots of animals that look like Pokémon, bees that don't migrate, abandoned collider in Texas supposedly three times bigger than LHC, Tesla device in Texas, more geography changes, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, lots of weird new guinea pigs, Venus appears to change color and flicker, Gerenuk changes again, primitive tooth braces, more Mount Rushmore changes, changes to George Washington's overall appearance and inconsistent depictions of him.)(Video below.)(Sesame Street type of bird.)(Viper fish now exist.)(Camila Harris/Kamala Harris)(Other spellings?)(Was Kamala never an acceptable spelling of Camila?)(Do you remember black gum drops existing and purple ones that taste like what the black ones did not existing?)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWwrDMMFv70
6568.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Cleopatra's place of rest being known?
https://www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/people/cleopatra-s-tomb
6569.(Famous Composer name change.)Ludwig von Beethoven/Ludwig van Beethoven(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven
6570.(Music Lyrics change.)"Slap the taste out ya face."/"Slap the taste out ya mouth."(Other lyrics?)(Are any of either of their logos off?)
https://genius.com/Dr-dre-fuck-wit-dre-day-and-everybodys-celebratin-lyrics
6571.(Famous Actor name change.)Mark Paul GosslaMark-Paul Gosselaar(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark-Paul_Gosselaar
Add-On: Do you remember Suzanne Summer, Summers, Sumers, or Sumer?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanne_Somers
6572.(Famous Actor name change.)Adam Richmond/Adam Richman(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Richman
6573.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Down Syndrome or Down's Syndrome?(Anything else off?)
http://blogs.reuters.com/gbu/2007/02/11/down-syndrome-or-downs-syndrome/
6574.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember deer not being able to jump over cars?
https://kutv.com/news/offbeat/video-deer-jumps-over-moving-car-at-full-speed
6575.(Fictional Character name change.)Goober Fraggle/Boober Fraggle
https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Boober_Fraggle
6576.(T.V. Show Logo change.)Do you remember the letters in Fraggle Rock not being connected?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraggle_Rock
6577.(Fictional Character name change.)Dozers/Doozers(Do you remember them all having the same colored hat?)
https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Doozers
6578.(Theme Song Lyrics change.)"Down in Fraggle Rock."/"Down at Fraggle Rock."
http://www.metrolyrics.com/fraggle-rock-theme-lyrics-muppets.html
6579.(Music Lyrics change.)"When I saw her standing there."/"Since I saw her standing there."(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Saw_Her_Standing_There
6580.(Company name change.)Delta Airlines/Delta Air Lines
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines
6581.(Store name change.)The Gap/Gap
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gap_Inc.
6582.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Jack & Jill never being Jack & Gill?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_Jill_(nursery_rhyme)
6583.(Song name change.)Forever Young/Young Forever
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Forever
6584.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Paul Sorvino dying?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Sorvino
6585.(Music Lyrics change.)"The tears are in my eyes."/"The tears are in my mind."("A shadow of a man. A face through a window."/"Shadows of a man. A face through the window.")("Walked away when love was mine."/"I've walked away when love was mine.")(Anything else off?)(Do any of his logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Barry-manilow-mandy-lyrics
6586.(Camera name change.)Nikkon/Nikon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon
6587.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember deer only being able to give birth to 2 babies at a time?
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/incredible-footage-of-a-doe-birthing-4-fawns/
6588.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Ted from Four Rooms saying something different after asking to be shot now by the husband who thinks Ted is messing with his wife?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Rooms
6589.(Rock Band name change.)Human League/The Human League(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Human_League
6590.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember ring piercings in fingers not being a thing?
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/experts-are-warning-against-engagement-ring-piercings-20180321-p4z5dy.html
6591.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember bulletproof vests in the 1920's not being a thing?
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/testing-bulletproof-vest-1923/
6592.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the lead singer of Weezer wearing glasses in Buddy Holly?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Holly_(song)
6593.(Movie Quote change.)"This house is clear."/"This house is clean."
https://tenor.com/search/this-house-is-clean-gifs
6594.(Music Lyrics change.)"Maybe kiss me."/"Baby kiss me."(Other lyrics?)(Anything else off?)
https://genius.com/Frank-sinatra-fly-me-to-the-moon-lyrics
6595.(Product name change.)Freaky Freezies/Freezy Freakies(Other names?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freezy_Freakies
6596.(Snack name change.)TransformeTransform-A-Snack(Other names?)(Do any of the logos look off?)
https://goldenwonder.com/transform-a-snack/
6597.(Music Lyrics change.)"I ain't afraid of no ghosts."/"I ain't 'fraid of no ghost."(Anything else off?)(Do any of his logos look off?)(Ghostbusters/Ghostbusters (Searchin For The Spirit) )
https://genius.com/Ray-parker-jr-ghostbusters-lyrics
6598.(Can't think of a title)Do you remember Rick James singing about New Age Magazines instead of New Wave Magazines?
https://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=52506
6599.(Company name change.)LensCrafteLensCrafters
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LensCrafters
6600.(Song name change.)McGrupp And The Watchful Horsemasters/McGrupp And The Watchful Hosemasters(Other names?)(Do any of their logos look off?)(Anything else off?)
http://phish.net/song/mcgrupp-and-the-watchful-hosemasters/history
6601.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different or not a thing?(Mexican mole lizard, frozen Baikal is clear, bear helps 3 year old boy and more weird new animal behavior, snakes have 2 hemipenes, more Mount Rushmore changes, rat eating plant, tulsa race riot, more Antarctica changes and other geography changes, margay, maribou shark, giant immortal lobsters, urohydrosis, bacteria in your brain, jacarundi/jaguarundi now exists and have changed before, Malayan Tapirs have changed again, anteaters have completely changed, screaming hairy armadillo, October 8, 1871, more weird flamingos, oriental short hair cat and other weird house cat breeds, Abercrombie & Finch/Abercrombie & Fitch and the logo has changed, Marabou changes again, Gharial changes again, pigeons producing milk changed again, more time inconsistencies, Chris Helmsworth/Chris Hemsworth, centipede bursts from snake's stomach, lakes that freeze crystal clear and can be walked on, more anatomy changes and weird discovered skulls, more Shiva changes, more eagle changes, more Buddha statue changes, more The Creation Of Adam changes, more Statue of Liberty changes.)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QLDLWzRTKxc
6602.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the Birdman Of Alcatraz having lots of birds with him instead of none?
https://www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/people/the-birdman-of-alcatraz
6603.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Liam Neeson being involved in this wanting to kill a black man scandal years ago and receiving more support?
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/is-liam-neesons-career-in-trouble-after-admitting-he-once-wanted-to-kill-a-black-man
6604.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember David Soul dying in 2016 or more recently or earlier instead of still being alive?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Soul
6605.(Music Lyrics change)"Pretty eyes."/"Pretty eyed."/"Pretty eye."(Anything else off?)
https://genius.com/Elton-john-tiny-dancer-lyrics
6606.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Judas being considered really ungodly?(Anything else off?)
https://www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/religion/the-gospel-of-judas
6607.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Michael Fishman always playing D.J. in Roseanne and no one else?
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0688832/
6608.(Commercial Quote change.)Do you remember the guy saying "No!" more than once?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQnbL_5ZgbY
6609.(Product name change.)Kids Cuisine/Kid's Cuisine/Kid Cuisine(Do any of the logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_Cuisine
6610.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different or not a thing?(Second mode harmonic vibration, insect shoots larvae into eyes of humans, another human faced goat, more remembered spellings of Ghirardelli, sealand skull, Alabama rot, dorsal fin collapse in orcas, candiru and it might've been spelled differently, pyramids of Cochasqui, Porter Gable/Porter-Cable, first USA president was maybe black, more Back To The Future changes, more Great Pyramid changes and lots of other pyramid changes, magnetic North pole vs. geomagnetic pole, more on stone ball parks, light poles can shiver, botflies used to only be in Africa, Geiger counter, changes to the 2005 George W. Bush assassination attempt, 9/11 hurricane that missed NYC, rat-tailed maggot, Jerry Sandusky alive again, Umpa Lumpa/Oompa Loompa(Other spellings?).)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jle_2jeDVI
6611.(Music Lyrics change.)"Man we don't waste it."/"Man I ain't basic."(Did the latter not exist?)(Any of their logos off?)(One Republic/Onerepublic/OneRepublic)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_WsSaeU-gk
6612.(Fruit name change.)Garbonzo Bean/Garbanzo Bean
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickpea
6613.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember The Wild World Of Batwoman not existing?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ruLzQObWBkA
6614.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Friday: The Animated Series not existing?(Does the Friday logo look off?)(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday:_The_Animated_Series
6615.(Can't think of a title.)Have you heard of black cheese?(Does the Wow Amazing logo look off?)(Have you heard of black noodles?)(Have you heard of brown noodles?)
https://www.wowamazing.com/food/cheese-colored-black-made-with-charcoal/
6616.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember cats not ever having human-like faces?
https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/10/meet-valkyrie-maine-coon-kitten-human-face-7697910/
6617.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember canada geese not ever being found in the UK?
http://bird4u.mzzhost.com/can.jpg
6618.(Celebrity death date change.)Do you remember Albert Finney dying years ago instead of February 7, 2019?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Finney
6619.(Company name change.)Versachi/Versace(Other spellings?)(Is the pronunciation off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versace
6620.(Music Lyrics change.)"Reach out and touch me."/"Reach out and touch Faith."(Other lyrics?)(Any of their logos off?)(Anything else off?)
https://genius.com/Depeche-mode-personal-jesus-lyrics
6621.(Famous Physicist name change.)Erwin SchroedingeErwin SchrodingeErwin Schrödinger(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Schrödinger
6622.(Movie Quote change.)"Sorry I ruined your black panther party."/"Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your black panther party."
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/BSeqWFD
6623.(Company Logo change.)Do you remember the letters in Crosshatch(Cross Hatch?)being normal?(Anything else off?)
https://www.crosshatchclothing.com/collections/jeans
6624.(Famous Chancellor name change.)Imothep/Imhotep(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imhotep
6625.(Phantom geography.)Do you remember the Republic Of Macedonia not existing?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Macedonia
6626.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Sonoluminescence not existing?
https://lycanlover.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/starinajar.jpg?w=590&h=332
6627.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Burt Young dying a while ago?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Young
6628.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember lion roars sounding a lot more loud and intimidating?(Was the MGM lion roar an actual lion roar?)(Were all famous lion roars from actual lions?)
https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/secret-behind-lions-roar.html
6629.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember icicles being a lot more common?(Do apples, other fruits and vegetables grow at different times now?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icicle
6630.(Air Force Base name change.)Vandenburg/Vandenberg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandenberg_Air_Force_Base
6631.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Gallagher dying a few years ago?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_(comedian)
6632.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the highest mountain in Great Britain being Ben Nevis and the highest mountain in Australia being Kosciuszko?(Any other highest mountains off?)
https://www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/geography/australias-highest-mountain
6633.(Can't think of a title)Do you remember chromatic typewriters not being a thing?
https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2011/12/the-chromatic-typewrite
6634.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Ted Levine dying a while ago?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Levine
6635.(Company Logo change.)Hancock/Hankook
https://m.hankooktire.com/us/
6636.(Famous Actor name change.)Ron Pearlman/Ron Perlman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Perlman
6637.(Alcohol name change.)Hypnotic/Hpnotiq
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hpnotiq
6638.(Spelling change.)Comradery/Camaraderie(Was the latter never acceptable?)(Anything else off?)
https://writingexplained.org/comradery-or-camaraderie
6639.(New fruits.)Have you heard of the yellow watermelon?
https://www.specialtyproduce.com/produce/Yellow_Watermelon_7663.php
6640.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the FDA or another company being the first people to put expiration dates on milk bottles instead of Al Capone?
https://www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/people/al-capones-milk-bottle-expiration-dates
6641.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Steve Jobs stealing the computer mouse idea from Xerox instead of Xerox already selling it and only improving on the product?(Anything else off?)
https://www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/science/steve-jobs-stole-the-mouse-from-xerox
6642.(Famous Actress name change.)Carol Burnette/Carol Burnete/Carol Burnnette/Carol Burnnete/Carol Burnet/Carol Burnnett/Carol Burnett(Didn't she die?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Burnett
6643.(Song name change.)Valerie/Vallerie/Valleri(Was Valleri never an acceptable spelling of Valerie or Vallerie?)(Other spellings?)(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valleri
6644.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the zombie deer disease that can possibly spread to humans not being a thing?
https://www.foxnews.com/health/deadly-zombie-deer-disease-could-possibly-spread-to-humans-experts-warn.amp
6645.(Chip Logo change.)Do you remember the letters in Cape Cod chips not being connected?(Anything else off?)(Were the letters in Kingston Technology normal?)
https://www.capecodchips.com
6646.(Company name change.)VictoVicta(Was Victa never an acceptable spelling of Victor?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victa
6647.(Company name change.)Dooney & Burke/Dooney & Bourke(Other names?)(Anything else off?)
https://www.dillards.com/brand/Dooney+and+Bourke/handbags
6648.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different or not a thing?(More on tartary, mud floods, surviving freezing, Orion arm instead of spur, Spanish flu, Great Wall Of Gorgan, Gigas clams, world's biggest pearl, more on Sonoluminescence and star in a jar, more on mantis shrimp, slowing the speed of light, going faster than the speed of light, speed of light changed recently and is not constant, another state of water discovered, another state of matter discovereed, female gladiators, now there officially a second shooter on the grassy knoll, otter fishing, dolphins help fishermen for no apparent reason, Henry Wordsworth Longfellow/Henry Wadsworth Longfellow(Other spellings?), more geography changes, more stone walls.)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ha9wfM3kLq0
6649.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Slash not dying in 1992 for a few minutes?
https://www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/people/slash-died-in-1992
6650.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the Harlem Globetrotters not having female members?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBK0P4ZCupE
6651.(Fictional Character name change.)Earnest P. Worrell/Ernest P. Worrell(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_P._Worrell
6652.(Plant name change.)Sambuscus/Sambucus(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambucus
6653.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember dolphin assisted human births not being a thing?
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/05/29/dolphin-assisted-births-are-a-thing/
6654.(Famous Football Player name change.)Collin Kapernick/Colin Kaepernick(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick
6655.(Music Lyrics change.)"Demons in my head."/"Digging in my head."/"Ticking in my head."(Anything else off?)(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Anthrax-got-the-time-lyrics
6656.(Fictional Character appearance change.)Do you remember Zangief from Street Fighter not having shin hair?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zangief
6657.(History change.)Do you remember black people not ever running for president in the 1900's except in the 2000's and 2010's?
https://www.npr.org/sections/npr-history-dept/2015/12/01/455267676/a-forgotten-presidential-candidate-from-1904
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2018.08.07 14:16 der_inselaffe My Family and other Animals Part 1. My Father's family (sorry,epically long, rambling)

Hi all,
LTL, FTP and all that jazz. I started to write a post about my mixed feelings of dread, curiosity, and hope about an upcoming family wedding, but it got so large that I need to edit it and post it into several parts to give you all the correct context. This is my first ever post, so please accept my apologies for any formatting errors.
Edit: Sorry, it is just a wall of text. I suppose I'm just writing to get it off my chest...
Also, I'm not really looking for advice. To be honest, the act of writing this all down is something that I've been putting off doing for years. It's an attempt at finally coming to terms with my screwed up view of family and the reasons why I feel this way. Apologies if I ramble on a bit......
I (38M) have been invited to attend the wedding of one of my cousins in a couple of weeks. This is quite an undertaking as I currently reside in a small European country (think mountains, casual xenophobia, banks and chocolate and you can probably guess where), and the wedding is going to be on the west coast of the US. Whilst I'm quite looking forward to thick cut bacon and exploring a new place, I'm dreading it for 2 reasons. The first is being stuck on a plane for 12 hours (been there, got the t-shirt, spent months in traction after the crash), but the most important reason is that my JNParents have totally skewed normality for me to the point where I view it as perfectly normal for family members to hate each othescrew each other over, and for me to feel physically uncomfortable when I see people getting on well with actual blood relatives. My fiance (F46) has a very close relationship with her parents who I also get along with. She is also close to her brother who has a large brood of 4 kids together with his wife. I get extremely uncomfortable when I am around the entire family, which leads me to either sneak off more than I should to smoke/vape, or to get drunk and quickly. Whilst it's not easy doing the whole thing in a foreign language, my real problem stems from the fact that it's been drilled into me from a young age that family is a bad thing, and I subconsciously keep wondering which one it is that is going to somehow use me and rip me off for their own benefit. I know that they wouldn't, but it's what my lot did and it's very very hard to drop those defenses that took years to build.
So lets back up a bit (ok, a lot), so that I can attempt to bring some clarity to the previous statement. Going into it in one post would become a tale of epic proportions, so I will post some more stories in at a later date, and try (and probably fail) to keep the backstory short here.
My parents, who I assume are still together if they are even still alive, had my brother and myself, and my mother has a daughter from a previous marriage. All of us are NC with not only my parents but also with each other. Add to this that my parents are also NC with all of their respective families, and before we broke all contact we were raised to think of our various aunts and uncles as "the enemy". We were never overtly hostile to them, but were told not to trust them, and any interactions with them were intensely criticised. For the most part, this was never an issue. My Father's two sisters both lived in the US, and my Mother's sister was all the way over (or should I say under) in Australia. The only grandparent I ever met was my maternal grandmother, and as my mother really hated her, visits were few and far between (usually over Christmas). My mother's family are their own breed of special, so I will save them for another time as this story is about the paternal side of my family.
Despite being 24 before I broke contact, what I know of my father's family history is vague, peppered with what I can only assume are lots of embellishments, half-truths and, probably, some complete lies. Whilst he never used the word "abuse", I do fully believe that my father ended up a damaged and delusional person purely down to the abuse he himself suffered at the hands of his father. My father was born in the UK to diplomatic parents (who also had huge ties to the UK). At an early age, they returned to a (these days) lesser know Asian country for my grandfather to assume an important military role. My grandmother died when my father was around 4 or 5, leaving just him, his father, his two older sisters and I'm told a number of servants. Now, I know nothing of what happened when he was growing up. There are some vague insinuations that my grandfather wasn't afraid to be cruel, cold-hearted and was in a position where he was fully able to put bullets into people when he felt like it (and apparently did, but this will get its own post). My father left this county and returned to the UK in the late 70's where he met my mother. My two aunts married American Marines and moved to the US (and I fully intend to ask how they all met, as the US was never involved in any military action in this country, so my guess is Embassy staff). At some point, my grandfather also left and joined the middle sister and her husband, where he apparently became a doting and loving grandparent to my two female cousins before he died. I remember my father often raging about his sisters. How they were terrible people who did terrible things to him whilst he was growing up. I can only assume the older sister was worse as he at least had off and on phone calls with his middle sister once every few years.
Still with me? I did say that I tended to ramble.....
In the very early 90's the eldest sister apparently had a civilian position in the US military, and was posted to a base in the UK about 30 minutes from where I was growing up, along with her husband and son. That was an interesting time. My parents continuously talked crap about them behind their backs, but presented this beaming "we're faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamilly" smile when they visited. Also, we weren't poor growing up, so whenever they visited my parents laid on the most lavish spreads of food you could imagine and apologised that they hadn't gone to much trouble (because of course, a 7-course meal is totally normal any day of the week). I also believe that this was the time that my mother got her fur coats out of storage too, but I was too young to really remember. What I do clearly remember was my mother (mostly) belittling the "hick, uncultured" Americans at any chance she got (e.g. when they weren't listening). My brother and I at the time found this to be normal behavior for them, so we just tuned it out. We were both far too busy being curious about meeting a cousin for the first time in our lives.
Our entire interaction with faaaaaaaaaaaaamilly lasted 4 times. Twice they visited us, and twice we visited them. This is despite a less than 30-minute drive between our respective homes. We were never told what happened, and the absence of them in our lives wasn't discussed aside from being told that they weren't "our kind of people". This also led to my mother upping the anti-American rhetoric for a while every time my brother or I had an American friend. It wasn't out and out racism, but my mother was EXTREMELY snobbish, classist and thought that she was far superior to everybody else as my father earned a lot of money and she drove a Mercedes. Odd attitude to have seeing as she was originally an Essex girl who grew up, broke, in post-war London, but then she always was a huge narcissist who loved to criticise other people (and yes, she's going to get her own post).
For the next few years, everything on my father's side of the family was very quiet (that I was aware of). The odd occasional phone call from his middle sister. Every now and again there was a package sent from the states with assorted presents, but I really don't know if my parents reciprocated. This was up until my grandfather developed prostate cancer. I was still fairly young at the time (early teens), but I clearly remember a heated debate at home. His middle sister had been on the phone with my father. Grandfather is in the hospital and dying. He wants to see his son before he dies. Whether to atone, apologise or just to stick the knife in one last time I really do not know. My brother and I were given a modest overview of the situation and told to not discuss it for fear of upsetting my father. In the end, he decided not to go and didn't even speak to his father on the phone one last time (which will probably become a family tradition). When the call finally came that his father had died, he spent a couple of days not really doing much of anything. The mood in the house was somber, but it just wasn't a topic that was discussed with my brother and me.
Normal service resumed. Lots of not speaking to his sister, to suddenly he has planned a visit to the US, alone. By this stage in life, I was really tuning out anything to do with family relationships. I really couldn't keep up with what I perceived was the normal family dynamic of hot/cold, fake love/hate emotions and wanted very little to do with it. So he went and apparently had a wonderful time and on his return, he extolled the wonderful virtues of his family. For a while at least...... Then it was back to NC for whatever reason.
At the end of the 90's, I had managed to land a full time IT job in London and was happily living up there being as LC with my family as I possibly could be. I was finding my feet as a person and trying to create normal healthy relationships with people, whilst at the same time trying to fend off the drama that is my family. You know, being told that you've left home because you're a drug dealer, or that you can't be at home because you're plotting to have your family killed, or you're an addict, etc etc. Being told that you need to get a girlfriend or everybody will think you are gay, to suddenly being told that you can't make plans with said girlfriend ever, as every time you do they suddenly need you to drop your plans and do something for them that can't involve her...... but this backstory post is about his relationship with his family. We will do my relationship with them in another post. So there I was, and being the handy individual I was, I had promised my girlfriend that I was going to help her lay a new wooden floor in her house over the weekend. We had already started ripping up carpets before the weekend, so we had to get the floor finished as otherwise, her house was barely liveable (and she had two kids so not finishing wasn't an option). You guessed it, the phone goes and it's my father. His middle sister's oldest daughter (who I will call FC for my fraternal cousin) was on a European tour and had just arrived in London. I needed to drop everything I was doing and look after them (thanks for the notice). It was very important that I make a good impression of how successful I and the family have become. Completely unable to get out of my weekend plans, I thought the best thing I could do was meet FC, and find out what her plans were, and hope that it wasn't something which actually needed my presence.
So I met FC at Waterloo station for the first time ever. She had her at the time boyfriend and another female friend in tow. Thankfully she turned out to be a rather relaxed and laid back individual. I'd never even spoken to her before, and was dreading it given how much I had "heard" about her mother. Then there is a problem. They have no hotel reservation, and it's 5 pm on the Friday of one of the busiest weekends in London. Thankfully my housemate at the time is a great guy, so I offer for them to stay at my place, but I will sadly be gone on Friday night and Saturday, only to return on Sunday evening. This is fine for them, and placates my girlfriend so after getting them all set up I head over to lay the floor (because if I didn't, I certainly wouldn't be laying anything else). FC is fine with this. I've saved them a ton of cash on hotels and my housemate is acting a free tour guide for them. All good, right? Wrong. My father flips out completely. I'm letting the family down, I'm putting some random woman (?) before my faaaaaaaaaaaaaamilly. I need to spend all my limited income on taking them out to dinner, showing them London and making them think that our (his) side of the family is the best thing ever. I just noped out of that and told them that if I had any more than 30 minutes warning, I might have been able to do something but my hands were tied. Turns out that they knew about the visit well in advance and just didn't tell me about it.
Monday comes, FC and friends head off to continue their vacation and I don't hear from her for another 7 or so years before she comes back to Europe. My parents, however, did not forgive me for not dropping everything and spending what little income I had (I was young so, broke) on them. By this point, they were laying all the foundations for me going NC so I really didn't care about being on the crap list once again. Life moved on. I split up from my girlfriend eventually, then found a new one. Then the NC event happens (will be in the faaaaaaamily post), I move to a different country, then another and I never really paid much attention to my side of the family ever again.
FC finally contacts me out of the blue after years of me not being involved in anything to do with family. She's on another European vacation and wonders if she can stay at my house for a few days. Sort of bad timing again, as current girlfriend and I (now fiance) are going on vacation before the end of their visit, but we agree and all goes well. We have a good weekend despite their jetlag, and when the time comes for us to depart we give them a house key and as my girlfriend had the less intimidating car, she gave them the key to her car to use whilst we were gone. Finally, their time is up and they leave. They write us a quick thank you note, drop the keys in the letter box and head off. We get home to a speeding ticket they incurred (and we had to pay due to the law in this country), and about $4 for fuel after they emptied the tank. Girlfriend was pissed, I wrote it down to another wonderful faaaaaaaaamily incident and took it as a reminder to why I don't do family. We've talked since and turns out it was a total misunderstanding so we're good now, but at the time I was feeling fully justified in not having anything to do with family.
I'll be honest, the older I get the more I do think about family. Sometimes it's relief to be away from that, sometimes it's anger that I don't have a "normal" family, but other times its regret that it just all went so badly wrong with so many different people. Christmas is a very lonely time of year for me, despite having a wonderful girlfriend who has great parents. Sometimes, this does lead me to look people up on Facebook, just to see if they are still alive, or how they are doing. Recently, this led me to look up FC's sister who I haven't met yet. Turns out she had recently moved to NYC. Now I'm there fairly frequently as my girlfriend and I have a great friend who lives there, but I was also going to work there for a week so I thought "why not contact her?". My mind was screaming at me. Why on earth was I putting myself in danger of another family drama when life was good as it is? Well it turns out, in this case, I did the right thing. We met in my hotel bar and then proceeded to have a great night on the town, which ended up with us drinking in a bar until about midnight. After listening to her speak, her side of the family, these evil manipulating people I've been warned about my whole life seem NORMAL. No narcissistic tendencies, no backstabbing, no accusations of plotting to murder the whole family. I was shocked. And, I don't know, maybe hopeful that after so many years of depending on myself and my girlfriend, I would finally be a part of my own family, and not just latch on to somebody else's. I cannot explain this feeling as to why it is important to me.
I've spent my whole life thinking that my whole family on both sides were lying, cheating, violent, manipulative bastards. I detect one single spark of normality from one single evening and it's blowing my head up. I didn't really connect with FC when I met her, and I'm thinking that maybe I was so closed off from everything I grew up hearing, and my own family experiences that I didn't give her much of a chance. Meeting her sister has opened my eyes a bit, and it's about to probably open them a bit more than I was expecting, because FC is getting married in 2 weeks. I just quit my job so it's a bit of a bad time for me, but I've decided that this is going to be the only event where that whole side of the family is going to be in one place, so I'm going. Honestly, I'm not expecting the world. I'm not expecting a fully functional family that I'm going to fall in love with and feel a part of straight away. I'm just hoping that I'm going to have one positive experience with my own family members and just take it from there. Sadly, my girlfriend can't get the time off work, so I'll be going alone. I'll update you all afterward if there is any interest in the story. In the meantime, I'll get back writing the stories of my other dysfunctional family members.
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2018.07.20 04:30 harkatmuld Breakneck Ridge Saturday 7/21

Hey all,
I (27/m/gay) am planning to hike breakneck ridge this Saturday. Would love to head out with 1-3 other people.
You don't have to be a crazy mountain climber but it would be nice to go with some people who know a bit what they're doing (such that I don't have to tell you to, e.g., bring lots of water, sunscreen, etc.) While I'm fairly out-of-shape, I am middle-of-the-pack in terms of speed (I just breathe a lot harder than everyone else :)).
Since this often feels like a dating sub: while I'd love to go hiking with three hot guys (let's call them Ryan Phillippe, Liam Hemsworth, and Jake Gyllenhaal) who are totally into me (let's call me Jonah-Hill-before-he-lost-weight), I'm just looking to have a nice hike with a few good people. All ages/genders/sexual orientations welcome.
In terms of route, I was thinking of either heading up to the firetower (come and leave at the breakneck ridge stop) or doing a loop and taking the green trail into the north end of Cold Spring then taking the train from the Cold Spring stop back to NYC. Have never done either of these routes (although have done portions of each), so both will be a nice little adventure. Map here.
In terms of timing, I am planning to catch the 6:45 train from Grand Central to arrive at BNR at around 8:15. Rain is forecast to start at around 3-4, so it would be nice to catch the 2:15 or 3:14 trains from Cold Spring (there's also also a 4:06, 4:18, and 5:16) or the 1:09 or 3:09 train from BNR (there's also a 4:13 and 5:11).
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2018.05.13 08:41 MaximumSpidercide Essay: Why I think the backlash against Marvel's replacement heroes had less to do with bigotry than people think.

This is an essay on why I do not think most Marvel fans who hated legacy characters in the 2010s actually felt that way due to racism and sexism.
This isn't discussing people who don't like America Chavez, or Squirrel Girl, or Ice Man being gay.
This is EXCLUSIVELY about examples in the 2010s where older heroes were replaced with new ones, specifically the new ones who were of different races and genders to them.
This is also NOT me saying bigotry was DEVOID in the backlash. My argument is about the MAJORITY of people's reactions.
My challenge to people reading this is for you to ACTUALLY read the whole thing and TRY to consider the points. If you disagree explain how and why you feel that way intelligently. Don't go in having already made up your mind and religiously grip to the idea that 'Of course comic book fans are bigoted white male virgins!!11!!!!'. CONSIDER maybe there is an alternative POV.
In recent years A LOT of discussion has been devoted to issues of diversity and representation within comic books and their movie counterparts. A large chunk of this discussion has centred upon how in the 2010s Marvel featured many of their iconic characters being temporarily replaced, often with characters of different genders, races/ethnicities, etc.
Sam Wilson replaced Steve Rogers as Captain America. Riri Williams replaced Tony Stark as the lead of the Iron Man book(s). Jane Foster replaced Thor Odinson as Thor God of Thunder and wielder of Mjonir. Amadeus Cho replaced Bruce Banner as the Hulk. Laura replaced Logan as Wolverine. And Miles Morales replaced Ultimate Peter Parker as Ultimate Spider-Man.
There are other discussions regarding diversity (such as Ice Man being gay) but I want to discuss the backlash many of those diverse characters faced when they existed as legacy replacement heroes to the older characters.
Let me be upfront.
I’m not denying racism, sexism or other forms of identity politics bigotry was devoid in this backlash.
I don’t think anybody reasonable could honestly argue that there was 0% sexism going on with the backlash against Jane Foster Thor or 0% racism going on with Ironheart.
However my contention is this. That was honestly not the place from which most people who disliked those replacement heroes were coming from and it was/is unfair to broadbrush paint the majority of the detractors of those replacement heroes as bigots (in terms of being racist, sexist, etc, I’m not talking about literally any form of bigotry).
Being absolutely blunt it’s frankly lazily dismissive and ignorant to just do that. “You hate Sam Wilson being Captain America and want Steve Rogers back? You are hating on his stories? You must be a racist who wants to ‘Make Cap White Again’.”
However that is itself a form of ignorance born of a lack of understanding of how most comic book readers think, feel and just plain operate as fans of these characters.
To get this we need to establish some important context.
FIRST of all...comic book fans did not react positively to the instances where characters were going to be replaced in the 1980s and the 1990s. Even the much lauded Bucky Cap era was INITIALLY met with scepticism and negativity. It was not embraced until it WON people over.
Meanwhile even Knightfall in the 1990s was and still is criticised by a fair number of people, many of whom failed to recognize it was not sincerely trying to float the idea of Jean-Paul Valley as a worthy successor to Bruce Wayne but actually showcase why he was UNWORHY and why Bruce was the true Batman.
It is well known that the majority of Marvel/DC readership are in fact older and/or hardcore fans. In this sense they are actually different to the audiences of most other franchises in other mediums.
The MCU film audiences are comprised of a segment of hardcore and older fans but they are drowned out by younger and newer viewers along with casual viewers. Most MCU fans aren’t trying to figure out how stuff fits together or explain continuity problems. The script is flipped for the audience of the actual comic books themselves though. The readers who jumped on board in even the last 10 years are actually in a minority and MOST comic book fans pour over the continuity and history of the characters trying to explain continuity errors and pointing them out as flaws in stories (which is a perfectly legitimate thing to do btw).
Heck this is so typical of comic book fans that Marvel INVENTED the No. Prize and have written stories and mini-series specifically to address continuity problems. Remember the Osborn Journal from the 1990s? That is an entire extra length one shot DEVOTED to just explaining the Clone Saga.
Even before that Marvel made respectable sales off the back of reprint series like Marvel Tales and information titles like the Marvel Handbooks and Marvel Saga.
Your average Marvel reader is very much aware of the broadstrokes of a characters history and is even aware of significant events in the Marvel universe as a whole simply via osmosis.
I never read an Iron Man story in my entire life until the mid-2000s but even before that I KNEW about Demon in a Bottle and Armor Wars. I have NEVER read the Kree/Skrull War but I know it was inspired by WWII. I know Werewolf Captain America is a thing that exists and I’ve read maybe 5 Cap stories in my entire life.
Understanding that the average Marvel reader has either been around for a good long while and has read/is reading/is aware of the broader history of the characters/series they are following is critically important to understanding my POV on why they reacted badly to the 2010s legacy heroes.
Why?
There are several key reasons.
1) We’d been here before.
For most of the heroes being replaced this was not the first time this had happened to them.
Riri Williams, Jane Foster and Sam Wilson each represented the THIRD time technically that Iron Man, Thor and Cap respectively had been replaced across their histories dating back to the 1980s (an era a chunk of Marvel’s readership were reading during).
Sam replacing Steve as Captain America was ESPECIALLY egregious because this was actually the second time in LESS THAN 10 YEARS that Cap was being replaced and it was following a long string of ‘shake up the status quo fundamentally’ stories for Cap dating back to just the mid 2000s in Ed Brubaker’s iconic run.
Red Skull’s death. Bucky’s resurrection. Steve becoming a fugitive. Steve dying. Bucky becoming Cap. Steve growing old. Many of these stories in isolation were good-great but when you then have so many stories in such a small space of time actively NOT simply have Steve Rogers operate as the hero Captain America without stuff that shakes the foundation stones it starts to look desperate and like you have run dry with the character.
When you then replace him AGAIN (followed by making him an evil HYDRA agent) it outright confirms that fact for many people.
The same holds true for most of the other replacement heroes. Most readers had seen this same status quo/foundation stone shaking trope pulled before so it came off as unoriginal , desperate and the fact that so many characters were doing it around the same time made exacerbated that.
Even though Wolverine (to my knowledge) had never been replaced by a new character ever before seeing it happen around the time of all these other replacement legacy heroes smacked of shallow trend chasing.
I know that there are only so many types of stories you can tell so you do have to use the same tropes more than once but there are some types of stories within the same narrative that you can and should only tell once.
The heroes being ousted from their identities and roles as the lead of their own titles is one of those...and for some this wasn’t their first time.
Think of it like this.
Imagine if Gwen Stacy died AGAIN. Or if one of Spider-Man’s girlfriends died in the crossfire of one of his battles AGAIN. Or if Captain America went up against a conspiracy regarding a high ranking politician secretly being a super villain AGAIN. Or if Iron Man went on a somewhat self-destructive quest to shut down every user of his stolen technology AGAIN.
Like...yeah it’s not unrealistic that that COULD happen again but it’s also from a storytelling POV not a good idea to repeat those kinds of things.
It’s difficult to articulate but Spider-man can defeat Electro and Reed and Sue can reaffirm their love for one another and their family essentially an infinite number of times but those types of stories are from a storytelling/reader POV fininte.
2) The replacement hero thing was an example of 90s nostalgia.
Part and parcel of people’s frustrations with seeing the characters replaced AGAIN was the fact that for many readers it was blatantly an example of 1990s nostalgia.
Most DC and Marvel characters were replaced in the 1990s through various stories (e.g. Knightfall, Avengers: the Crossing, etc) and not only were most readers aware of this fact, but there is an actively (often unfair imo) negative bias AGAINST 1990s comic book stories and tropes in general.
Thus the industry engaging in such a well known (and to many notorious) trope was automatically going to raise their ire.
3) Many of the older characters were in the 2010s stories written out in mean spirited or undermining ways.
As G. Willow Wilson, co-creator of for my money the most creatively successful new legacy charactegeneral marvel character this decade, Kamala Khan, said Carol got a promotion which left her old identity on the table for Kamala to pick up.
This is a far cry from Captain America turning old specifically to get rid of him so Sam can become Captain America.
Or Tony Stark engaging in a ridiculous civil war that renders him comatose so that Riri can replace him (not to mention also killing off Rhodey because he’d be the logical replacement).
Or the long suffering Bruce Banner being murdered by a fellow Avenger as part as previously mentioned ridiculous civil war so that Amadeus Cho can remain as the one and only Hulk.
Or Thor LITERALLY BEING PRONOUNDED AS UNWORTHY OF BEING the God of Thunder, losing the source of his power, his mantle as the God of Thunder and even giving up the name he was BORN with just for Jane Foster to replace him.
It is also a far cry from some of the 1980s/1990s replacement hero storylines which first and foremost were geared around the idea that the replacement heroes were not just UNWORTHY of their predecessors but were written with the intention of proving why the original characters WERE/should be the ones to hold those mantles. E.g. John Walker’s turn as Captain America was built around the inherent idea of showcasing why STEVE should be Captain America and why John was so wrong for the role.
4) Comic books moreso than any other medium generate deep long term emotional investment within the readers.
I won’t break down all the psychology of this for you but essentially in real life two people who like each other are going to grow more emotionally invested in one another the longer they spend with one another and the more intimate they become.
I don’t mean physically intimate. This can apply to platonic relationships. But when you learn more about someone you like (provided what you learn doesn’t make you dislike them) you grow more emotionally invested in them.
Fiction actually applies these same principles. We look to fiction to escape and entertain but the most successful forms of fiction to do this are the ones that emotionally invest us and if it is a serialized form of fiction that investment grows because we spend more time with the characters.
Comic books enhance this to a degree other forms of fiction do not.
Most Marvel characters are published once per month and have been for DECADES, with the Big Name titles existing since the 1960s!
Much like TV soap opera characters that means you can spend A LOT of time with the characters because you get to check in on them at least once per month.
And since most readers are older readers/readers who look in on the history of the characters that means comic book readers spend comparatively more time with the characters than followers of other forms of fiction.
Even TV soap operas rotate cast members out and unlike most Marvel superhero titles they are not centred around one specific character’s life the way Iron Man, Wolverine or Thor’s series are.
Compounding all this is the fact that superhero comic books regularly dive into the heads of the characters making the readers, and the readers alone, privy to their private thoughts and feelings.
That’s the intimacy I spoke about above. We get to know more about the characters and have a degree of insight into them that we share with the characters alone.
Intimacy+Time=Deeper emotional investment.
This is to say nothing of the FINANCIAL and physical investment of just buying and accumulating so many comic books over the years.
So when you switch out the protagonists for other characters it very naturally irks readers because even if we know they’re coming back it doesn’t change the fact that the new guys are NOT who they want to read about in the first place because they are NOT who they are emotionally invested in.
5) Exacerbating that last point is the fact for fans of MARVEL characters specifically in comparison to DC characters, legacies come off as incredibly undermining.
I’m not knocking DC here, but the fact is that most of their iconic protagonists were created prior to 1961 when Fantastic Four #1 was published and comic books began to dramatically change.
Prior to that the overwhelming majority of superheroes from both companies were created as powers first and people second. The emphasis was upon their super powers, their costume, their gimmick, who they were as individual people and what their actual personalities were like was less important to the point where for many of them their personalities were interchangeable. There were exceptions of course but they served to only prove the rule.
And this is one of, probably in fact THE biggest reason legacies have worked so much better over at DC than Marvel.
You could legacy Green Lantern and the Flash in the Silver Age and then do it again because so long as you had a guy with a ring that shone green light and another guy with super speed who wore a red shirt with a lightning bolt on it you had nailed the core concept of the characters. Because their powers and costumes were more important than the people underneath them.
The Marvel characters were the other way around though. People first, powers second. Real talk Peter Parker would’ve been talked about regardless of having spider powers. Reed Richards being able to stretch is almost irrelevant to his character and it barely makes a difference whether Ben Grimm is a reptilian looking monster or a rocky Golem inspired monster, the point is he looks like a monster and is upset about it.
Their personalities and personal lives from day 1 was what was important.
The Mighty Thor comic book was never about whoever happened to be called Thor, held the title of God of Thunder and wielded Mjonir. It was story of the life of Thor Odinson, Prince of Asgard, son of the Allfather Odin, adopted brother of Loki God of Trickery, friend of the Warriors Three, lover of Jane Foster and Sif.
The Wolverine comic book was never about whatever mutant with metal claws, a healing factor and anger issues happened to go around and call themselves Wolverine. It was the story of James ‘Logan’ Howlett, the mutant who’s healing factor enabled him to wander the Earth since the 19th century (making an enemy of Victor Creed in the mean time) but also led to him being horrifically experimented upon by having adamantium bonded to his skeleton before he found a family in the X-Men (specifically the ones from Giant Sized X-Men #1).
Being Spider-Man was never about anyone, be they an average joe or not who happened to live in NYC, wear web spandex, have spider powers and fight crime, whether they had guilt issues or what. It was the story of the life of Peter Parker, the guy who’s uncle Ben Parker was killed by a criminal he failed to stop when he had the chance, who then looked after his sickly widowed mother figure Aunt May, was bullied by Flash Thompson at Midtown High before attending Empire State University where he befriended Harry Osborn, fell in love with Mary Jane Watson and before that fell in love with Gwen Stacy who he accidentally killed on the Brooklyn Bridge
Etc.
To be Thor is to be Thor Odinson. To be Wolverine is to be James Logan Howlett. To be Spider-Man is to be Peter Parker.
Put simply the Marvel heroes were ALWAYS characters first costumes second. People not powers. Memories not mantles.*
Consequently when legacies pop up and these new characters are pushed as being just as good as or in some cases lowkey pushed as being better than the originals it naturally rubs those fans with decades of emotional investment the wrong way.
Not to mention it makes them come off as outright usurpers when they literally take over the series which is supposed to be about another character’s life.
OBVIOUSLY a woman or a POC can be just as worthy and just as capable as a man or a white person.
But series to series and character to character, it’s was the equivalent of Marvel taking away your pet Rex you’d known and loved for years when there was nothing wrong with them and gives you another clearly different pet with Rex’s collar, who gets Rex’s bowl, Rex’s food, Rex’s toys. Rex’s bed and even Rex’s name and asks you to treat him not as just a new dog but straight up the new Rex.
Except he isn’t Rex.
Rex is Rex.
The new Rex playing with Rex’s toys, doing the same tricks as him or having his collar doesn’t change that.
Because Rex was more than a collar, his toys or his tricks he was an individual that you’d known and loved.
And even if you know Rex is going to come back having Rex taken away from you at all, having the new Rex supplant them (especially if old Rex was screwed over for the sake of new Rex’s arrival) and having so many people insist new Rex is just as great or more great than old Rex (to the point where many people loudly proclaim they don’t even want the old Rex back and the old Rex was kinda lame and boring) is going to create a massive dissonance.
Like you would’ve been chill with the new Rex is he was just another additional pet called Rover or even like RexY who was similar yet different to Rex, but not actually promoted AS Rex as his replacement. And you would’ve been okay with the new Rex if the old one got too old, died naturally or accidentally.
But you aren’t okay with it because there was nothing wrong with Rex and you LOVED Rex and Rex had been with you and around generally forever so the new Rex felt like he was undermining and usurping him, including of his individuality.
It floats the idea of ‘Hey ANYONE can be these heroes’.
Which on the surface seems like a lovely progressive idea and I yeah I feel you on the idea of the Marvel heroes being the relatable only goes so far if most of them are straight/white/male.
But at the same time that approach to the characters ONLY works if the heroes within the narrative are clearly emphasised as symbols, mantles and mere roles as opposed to being built around the idea that they are individual people with their own distinct personalities, relationships and lives.
But as I said that’s aggressively NOT been Marvel’s message from day 1, both in-universe AND via the creators’ agendas for most of Marvel’s existence.
‘Anyone can be Spider-Man’ only works within the context of a series where being swinging around NYC in web spandex and fighting crime with your spider powers is both the core concept of the series and the thing around which everything is built.
Except...it’s not and never ever was. Peter Parker’s very specific personality, very specific relationships and very specific life circumstances was the core concept and point of everything.**
That’s how I think most comic book fans feel about practically EVERY legacy situation that’s ever cropped up not just the recent ones. Like I said they reacted negatively or apprehensively in the 1980s and 1990s and 2000s.
Back then you could never accuse Captain America fans who wanted Steve Rogers back as ‘wanting to make Cap white Again” because the Captain Americas they replaced him with were ALSO white.
And hey, I know some of you are going to want to bring up Superior Spider-Man. How fans didn’t react negatively about Doc Ock replacing Peter Parker compared to say Jane, Riri or Sam replacing Thor, Tony or Steve.
Because he was white right?
Sorry but...no.
Putting aside how several Spider-Man fans DID NOT like the idea behind Superior Spider-Man (me among them), like I said above more than once fans got pissed off when white male characters were replaced with OTHER white male characters.***
More poignantly though...Jesus...pre-Superior Spider-Man was an exceptional situation compared to most other characters who got replaced.
For one thing everyone knew Amazing Spider-Man 2 was around the corner and correctly guessed Peter would be back in time for that film’s release meaning we’d only have to go through Superior for a year or two vs. the comparatively longer periods that many of the other replacement heroes dominated their titles.
For another thing the Spider-Man fandom has been broken ever since One More Day with most, or at least a large contingent, actively hating post-OMD Spider-Man stories and characterization of Spider-Man, not least of all because of how desperately Brand New Day tried and failed to chase nostalgia and the message of ‘this character will NEVER go anywhere ever!’ was hammered into the fandom.
It was a message honestly hammered in harder than with ANY other Marvel character, at least of recent years.
Spider-Man fans were in a different mental/emotional place compared to most other fans. A great big, bold and sexy idea involving a long time character that most people liked a lot thus seemed far more appealing to them as opposed to Cap’s status quo fundamentally rocked AGAIN with him being sidelined AGAIN or Aaron’s generally well received Thor run benching the lead. As for Laura as the new Wolverine, guys Wolverine fans have had an off and on relationship with how much they like that character ever since she showed up in X-Men Evolution.
My point is Spider-Man fans were by and large following the series out of habit and/or hoping things would get fixed/trying their best to enjoy the book in spite of how broken things had become.
And when you are in that headspace something like Superior seems more appealing. The car has already broken down and doesn’t seem to be getting fixed anytime soon. Might as well have some jumping on the hood.
In conclusion bigotry played a factor in the blowback against the 2010s replacement Marvel heroes but the majority of the umbridge against them by the fans stemmed from factors independent of that bigotry.
*Captain America is obviously an exception but this is probably why he lends himself better to legacies than everyone else. It is precisely because he was created alongside the big DC characters in the Golden Age so he fundamentally began more as a symbol and powerset than a person.
On the flipside it’s why DC fans got pissed when Wally West got undone as the Flash for the sake of Barry Allan because he was the first Flash with a legitimate and nuanced personality and character. In Captain America’s case though he was not replaced by a new character who’s personal life and personality was emphasised over their powers, he simply evolved into that over time himself.
By the way, this is also why I suspect Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman survived from the Golden Age into the Silver Age without needing to be legacied like GL or Flash. Because they were the DC characters who more than any of the other ones had actual personalities/substance to them.
**Which isn’t to say you can never have spin-off versions of the characters.
To be Spider-Man is to be Peter Parker but Miles Morales for instance can still be the best ‘Miles Morales Spider-Man’ there ever was. Ben Reilly can still be an awesome Scarlet Spider. Riri could be a good Ironheart, etc.
But they’re not interchangeable with the original guys you feel me?
***Guys comic book fans routinely dislike it when you replace the NUMBERS on the front of covers with new #1s. They hated it so much in the 2000s Marvel put the OLD numbers back on the covers.
Hell in the 1980s Spider-Man fans hated the idea of Spider-Man getting a new black costume so much that EIC Jim Shooter ordered that Spidey lose the costume a mere issue later. He had to be convinced to keep it around for as long as he did by which point fans had fallen in love with it.
But that’s how much comic book fans reacted against the COSTUME they knew and loved being taken away and replaced with something else.
Can you see why they’d react against the CHARACTER they knew and loved being taken away and replaced with someone else?
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